Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground locations -- submitted draft RFC.
Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 21 January 2020 06:55 UTC
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From: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 22:54:50 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground locations -- submitted draft RFC.
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Ah yeah, that's a little strange. Perhaps better is ART dispatch, then: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dispatch/about/ Sorry for the confusion. On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 7:13 PM Rob Brew <sputnik2012@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you both. > > Looking at the artarea ietf page i can't find their mailing list. > Please can someone let me know it, or should i message the chair? > > Rob. > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:12 PM Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> > wrote: > >> There was both the geopriv WG and the geojson WG. I would second Erik's >> recommendation to contact the ART area on this type of work. >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> >> On 1/20/20 4:01 PM, Erik Kline wrote: >> > Rob, >> > >> > As you may well know there was once a working group (geopriv >> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/geopriv/about/>) where many similar >> topics >> > were discussed. That's concluded now, but I wonder if your document >> would >> > be more appropriate for consideration in artarea or even gendispatch. >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:22 AM Rob Brew <sputnik2012@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Dear all. >> >> >> >> I have submittetd the following draft RFC for approval. >> >> >> >> Obviously whilst underground mobile phone users at public locations, >> such >> >> as the London underground, will not be able to know their GPS >> location, as >> >> the GPS signals cannot penetrate the earth. I have submitted a RFC >> draft >> >> at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brew-intarea-underground-01 to >> >> bypass this problem, as well as a server application in Java at >> >> https://github.com/rydal/underground . >> >> >> >> As we know the IP Address contacting the server the server contains a >> map >> >> containing the GPS location of each underground site, as referenced by >> IP >> >> address. The returns the phsycial GPS location and name of the site >> as a >> >> JSON array. >> >> >> >> To prevent false servers reporting inaccurate information https can be >> >> used to verify the authenticity of the server. >> >> >> >> Providing this service to mobile phone user's without a current WIfi >> >> connection i propose going one stage further, create a hidden wireless >> >> network wih the name ".location". In cases where no GPS location can be >> >> found a mobile phone's GPS system can be programmed to seek such a >> >> network providing the same service. >> >> >> >> This would require alterations to th servics as provided by mobile >> phone >> >> providers such as Apple and Android. >> >> >> >> If you are interested in this concept please review it (and my code), >> and >> >> maybe it will become something. >> >> For a video demonstration of this service please check the link at the >> >> github site. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Rob Brew. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Int-area mailing list >> >> Int-area@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Int-area mailing list >> > Int-area@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Int-area mailing list >> Int-area@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >> > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > Int-area@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >
- [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground location… Rob Brew
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Brian Haberman
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Rob Brew
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] GPS over wifi for underground loca… Alexandre Petrescu