[Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal.
Jamie Thain <jamie@one.bm> Tue, 21 April 2026 00:06 UTC
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Subject: [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal.
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Paul, This is where i was told to post updates by ietf moderators. Jamie On Mon., Apr. 20, 2026, 9:02 p.m. Paul Vixie, <paul@redbarn.org> wrote: > until and unless this "ipv8" proposal is adopted by a working group, can > we please keep it off the int-area@ mailing list? it's perfectly > off-topic. > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list -- int-area@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to int-area-leave@ietf.org >
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. S Moonesamy
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Gyan Mishra
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Gyan Mishra
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Andrew Alston
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Gyan Mishra
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. S Moonesamy
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Andrew Alston
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. S Moonesamy
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Mikael Abrahamsson
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Mikael Abrahamsson
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
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- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Robinson, Herbie
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Mikael Abrahamsson
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Paul Vixie
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Jamie Thain
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Chris Box
- [Int-area] Re: ipv8 proposal. Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Paul Vixie
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Brian E Carpenter
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. S Moonesamy
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. Chris Box
- [Int-area] Re: I STRONGLY OPPOSE ipv8 proposal. sotrdg sotrdg