Re: [Int-area] RANGER BOF - call for participation
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] RANGER BOF - call for participation
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I would be interested, assuming it does not conflict with any of my regular WG sessions (v6ops, 6man, behave, amongst others...) On 1/30/2009 4:20 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > A community of interest is being formed to gauge > whether there is sufficient interest to host a BOF > on "Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation > EnteRprises (RANGER)" at IETF74. > > Please see below for proposed BOF agenda, and comment > on the RRG and int-area lists while we wait for the > ranger list to come up. > > Fred Templin > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > > > Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation EnteRprises (RANGER) BOF > =================================================================== > > Chairs: TBD > > Reponsible AD: TBD (INT Area; Routing Area) > > Mailing List: ranger at ietf.org > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ranger > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ranger > > Duration: 2 hours > > Expected Attendance: 50 > > Conflicts: LISP BOF, NAT66 BOF, int-area open meeting, > IRTF rrg meeting > > Summary > ======= > > RANGER [1] is a scalable architecture for routing and > addressing in next-generation enterprise networks, where > an "enterprise" [2] can be as small as a SOHO network, > as dynamic as a Mobile Ad-hoc Network (MANET) [3] or as > large as the global Internet itself [4]. The architecture > is manifested through Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) > [5], in which IP-in-IP encapsulation provides a virtual > view of each enterprise as a Non-Broadcast, Multiple- > Access (NBMA) link. > > RANGER is recursive, in that multiple enterprises can be > joined together in a nested "enterprise-within-enterprise" > fashion. In this way, the same RANGER principles that > apply in lower levels of recursion can extend upwards > to parent enterprises and ultimately to the core of the > global Internet itself. Furthermore, it is also worth > considering whether today's global Internet represents a > limiting condition for recursion, or if other Internets > could be manifested as "parallel universes" and joined > together at still higher levels of recursion. > > The RANGER architecture is manifested through composite > technologies including Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET), > the Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) > [6], the Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol > (ISATAP) [7], and many others. Noting that combinations > with other technologies are also possible, the issues > addressed either in full or in part by RANGER include: > > - IPv6/IPv4 coexistence and transition > - scalable routing and addressing > - provider-independent addressing and its > relation to provide-aggregated addressing > - site mobility and multi-homing > - ingress filtering for multi-homed sites > - address and prefix autoconfiguration > - border router discovery > - router-to-router tunneling > - neighbor discovery over tunnels > - MTU determination for tunnels. > > As seen in the above list, the RANGER architecture > provides a framework for addressing a broad range of > problem areas that currently limit the functionality, > growth and maturation of today's Internet. Therefore, > it is the purpose of this BOF to discuss the formation > of an IETF WG to produce the following work items: > > 1) An Informational RFC describing the RANGER architecture. > This document to provide a high-level overview of the > RANGER enterprise-within-enterprise framework, its > constituent technologies, and its domain of > applicability. > > 2) An RFC specification of Virtual Enterprise Traversal > (VET). This document to specify the inner workings of > IP-in-IP encapsulation and its associated mechanisms > within the RANGER context. > > 3) An RFC specification of the Subnetwork Encapsulation > and Adaptation Layer (SEAL). This document to specify > an encapsulation sublayer used to provide enhanced > packet identification and tunnel MTU robustness. > > 4) Other work items within scope as determined, e.g., > by working group/BOF consensus, etc. > > Agenda > ====== > > - Administrivia (Chairs, 5 min) > > - Purpose of BOF (Chairs, 10 min) [see above] > > - Routing and Addressing in Next Generation EnteRprises > (RANGER) (20 min) > > - Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) (20 min) > > - Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) > (20 min) > > - Proposed Charter (Chairs, 10 min) > > - Questions/Next Steps (Chairs, 30 min) > > > Documents: > ========== > > [1] Templin, F., "Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation > EnteRprises (RANGER), 'draft-templin-ranger', > work-in-progress, January 2009. > > [2] Bound, J., et. al., "IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - > IP Layer 3 Focus", IETF RFC 4852, April 2007. > > [3] Corson, S., et. al., "Mobile Ad hoc Networking (MANET): > Routing Protocol Performance Issues and Evaluation > Considerations", IETF RFC 2501, January 1999. > > [4] IRTF Routing Research Group, http://www.irtf.org/rrg > > [5] Templin, F., "Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET)", > 'draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp', work-in-progress, > January 2009. > > [6] Templin, F., "Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation > Layer (SEAL)", 'draft-templin-seal', work-in-progress, > December 2009. > > [7] Templin, F., et. al., "Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel > Addressing Protocol (ISATAP)", IETF RFC 5214, March 2008. > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > Int-area@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
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