[Int-area] RANGER BOF - call for participation
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A community of interest is being formed to gauge whether there is sufficient interest to host a BOF on "Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation EnteRprises (RANGER)" at IETF74. Please see below for proposed BOF agenda, and comment on the RRG and int-area lists while we wait for the ranger list to come up. Fred Templin fred.l.templin@boeing.com Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation EnteRprises (RANGER) BOF =================================================================== Chairs: TBD Reponsible AD: TBD (INT Area; Routing Area) Mailing List: ranger at ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ranger Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ranger Duration: 2 hours Expected Attendance: 50 Conflicts: LISP BOF, NAT66 BOF, int-area open meeting, IRTF rrg meeting Summary ======= RANGER [1] is a scalable architecture for routing and addressing in next-generation enterprise networks, where an "enterprise" [2] can be as small as a SOHO network, as dynamic as a Mobile Ad-hoc Network (MANET) [3] or as large as the global Internet itself [4]. The architecture is manifested through Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) [5], in which IP-in-IP encapsulation provides a virtual view of each enterprise as a Non-Broadcast, Multiple- Access (NBMA) link. RANGER is recursive, in that multiple enterprises can be joined together in a nested "enterprise-within-enterprise" fashion. In this way, the same RANGER principles that apply in lower levels of recursion can extend upwards to parent enterprises and ultimately to the core of the global Internet itself. Furthermore, it is also worth considering whether today's global Internet represents a limiting condition for recursion, or if other Internets could be manifested as "parallel universes" and joined together at still higher levels of recursion. The RANGER architecture is manifested through composite technologies including Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET), the Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) [6], the Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol (ISATAP) [7], and many others. Noting that combinations with other technologies are also possible, the issues addressed either in full or in part by RANGER include: - IPv6/IPv4 coexistence and transition - scalable routing and addressing - provider-independent addressing and its relation to provide-aggregated addressing - site mobility and multi-homing - ingress filtering for multi-homed sites - address and prefix autoconfiguration - border router discovery - router-to-router tunneling - neighbor discovery over tunnels - MTU determination for tunnels. As seen in the above list, the RANGER architecture provides a framework for addressing a broad range of problem areas that currently limit the functionality, growth and maturation of today's Internet. Therefore, it is the purpose of this BOF to discuss the formation of an IETF WG to produce the following work items: 1) An Informational RFC describing the RANGER architecture. This document to provide a high-level overview of the RANGER enterprise-within-enterprise framework, its constituent technologies, and its domain of applicability. 2) An RFC specification of Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET). This document to specify the inner workings of IP-in-IP encapsulation and its associated mechanisms within the RANGER context. 3) An RFC specification of the Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL). This document to specify an encapsulation sublayer used to provide enhanced packet identification and tunnel MTU robustness. 4) Other work items within scope as determined, e.g., by working group/BOF consensus, etc. Agenda ====== - Administrivia (Chairs, 5 min) - Purpose of BOF (Chairs, 10 min) [see above] - Routing and Addressing in Next Generation EnteRprises (RANGER) (20 min) - Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) (20 min) - Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) (20 min) - Proposed Charter (Chairs, 10 min) - Questions/Next Steps (Chairs, 30 min) Documents: ========== [1] Templin, F., "Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation EnteRprises (RANGER), 'draft-templin-ranger', work-in-progress, January 2009. [2] Bound, J., et. al., "IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3 Focus", IETF RFC 4852, April 2007. [3] Corson, S., et. al., "Mobile Ad hoc Networking (MANET): Routing Protocol Performance Issues and Evaluation Considerations", IETF RFC 2501, January 1999. [4] IRTF Routing Research Group, http://www.irtf.org/rrg [5] Templin, F., "Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET)", 'draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp', work-in-progress, January 2009. [6] Templin, F., "Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL)", 'draft-templin-seal', work-in-progress, December 2009. [7] Templin, F., et. al., "Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol (ISATAP)", IETF RFC 5214, March 2008. _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
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