Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-ping-ext-03.txt
SM <sm@resistor.net> Sun, 08 January 2012 11:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-ping-ext-03.txt
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At 12:44 07-01-2012, Warren Kumari wrote: >If ping processing goes from being a negligible use of resources to >something noticeable, the only reasonable solution I have is "deny >icmp any any echo" on edge. >This is not good for me, this is not good for my customers, this is >not good for the Internet at large. Agreed. If the authors really want to see draft-shen-traceroute-ping-ext-03 published, they could add an Applicability Statement saying that the domain of use is not the Internet. Not giving due consideration to input from operators can only discourage them from providing input in future. Regards, -sm
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Alia Atlas
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Joel jaeggli
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Joel jaeggli
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… SM
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Naiming Shen
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-shen-traceroute-… George, Wes