Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-02

Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> Mon, 26 February 2024 13:04 UTC

Return-Path: <tim@qacafe.com>
X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49281C15155C for <int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:04:05 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -7.106
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=qacafe.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8dDhBZ2pYngW for <int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:04:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-pj1-x1036.google.com (mail-pj1-x1036.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1036]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75AA7C1516E0 for <int-dir@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:04:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-pj1-x1036.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-299354e5f01so1730197a91.1 for <int-dir@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:04:01 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qacafe.com; s=google; t=1708952640; x=1709557440; darn=ietf.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Jwih32KaU0rf1o70S1XCADuA317DWh51uNF0mpff4EA=; b=rnh7rX17A2vYQtEMDzQ3ARK/8xcaE19NsDQIQ2LRIsT1ZHHatpacu22GIhjNaK1KGI dOGUWcmSUgB+/hELDjWy9O2l3UCGVnlbFjtMcqvISN9vWDOeOVRG0wdkCO/LRCKWKY3q WFwtav/ACogC/4Ms/GG+FuwjbBPViAi2SArSw=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708952640; x=1709557440; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Jwih32KaU0rf1o70S1XCADuA317DWh51uNF0mpff4EA=; b=sUBI8kVoUPiCl+/vU5eJVNCbBe4PwmRw+HdTrLonRJFCBkU6jZCfdI4MhE6v6fhN2Y 6BnWYaqDJrxulFp0t8mNzzSIY0HsJW/YA7p+yq9UgUJD4/c0qr9QH70pddTtsTt6YlpY 67bOhCxvfBKHjap4Kp+dB2PuPXhKso+SUxAzBt3d5ovExYCsiNILg7dLV9IzaJwwDJLF 58OBZ7xPTAYuRd0/ydQtUnzllu3FQaBqf+X89dlhQW6N/BvrTFQigtrHdk1Y3u4nkgsz bKLovUUhtijk+br3niNgTPxhLOnCTiZoDeUWv0RkylJxqvry0p7d1KhS4iykMldkX+3y VyQA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz84Ypq+FCnTilYjFw7fpNadRIjH+RW14WtcuVXYJ+ERci7/iYj wTWM72ELidopmjOqmfHuscct3B/7vfCQtI+7bYOkdStjigFM4er6eStnBgcgOukdpgVWNM+U8Se AHDPi+Bx4sK0VkcWw12uMPo4IfGEvNUBV82L10Q==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEr+pUvUY0lttj/vKjY4nG1DonK/UGH5fSIi60MwDH+ybCkVtg2kGF0h1EYnxJm++FouadaxSb2riZXDwImf4w=
X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:6448:b0:29a:72b:df85 with SMTP id y8-20020a17090a644800b0029a072bdf85mr9223292pjm.7.1708952640445; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:04:00 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <170871628514.41558.1168523619192787599@ietfa.amsl.com> <DU2PR02MB1016006E2BA04CF8E31E541CE885A2@DU2PR02MB10160.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <DU2PR02MB1016006E2BA04CF8E31E541CE885A2@DU2PR02MB10160.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
From: Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 08:03:48 -0500
Message-ID: <CAJgLMKs7CUrjcBzBFvjcTAja4PeXh5a30szoh1VDq1gLNO4UiA@mail.gmail.com>
To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
Cc: "int-dir@ietf.org" <int-dir@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls.all@ietf.org>, "teas@ietf.org" <teas@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000127c700612488bd2"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/int-dir/fT7gvj4kXjy-T8XT8Z8tC2G17L8>
Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-02
X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." <int-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/int-dir>, <mailto:int-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/int-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:int-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-dir>, <mailto:int-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:04:05 -0000

Hi Med,

Thanks for the speedy response, it resolved all my questions.

~Tim

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:28 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Timothy,
>
> Thank you for the review.
>
> Please see inline.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Timothy Winters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> > Envoyé : vendredi 23 février 2024 20:25
> > À : int-dir@ietf.org
> > Cc : draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls.all@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org
> > Objet : Intdir early review of draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-02
> >
> > Reviewer: Timothy Winters
> > Review result: Almost Ready
> >
> > I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-
> > ip-mpls.
> > These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet
> > Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these
> > comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF
> > contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments
> > that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate,..
> >
> > Summary: I don't think there are any Internet issues in this document.
> > I think it's in good shape for publishing as Informational document. I
> > found the Appendix C was helpful, as I'm not an expert in 5G
> > deployments.
> >
> > This document recommends encoding of the IP addressing in section 4.2
> > using most significant 96-bits to simplify mapping tables.
>
> [Med] Please note that the document does not recommend it per se. It is
> provided as an example to simplify the mapping table:
>
>    The mapping table can be simplified if, for example, IPv6 addressing is
> used to
>    address NFs.
>
>  There is
> > nothing wrong with this, but it should be noted for privacy and other
> > considerations if/when deploying over the public internet space.
>
> [Med] Thanks. Tried to generalize the concern by adding this new text:
>
> NEW:
>    In order to avoid the need for a mapping table to associate source/
>    destination IP addresses and slices' specific S-NSSAIs, Section 4.2
>    describes an approach where some or all S-NSSAI bits are embedded in
>    an IPv6 address using an algorithm approach.  An attacker from within
>    the transport network who has access to the mapping configuration may
>    infer the slices to which belong a packet.  It may also alter these
>    bits which may lead to steering the packet via a distinct network
>    slice, and thus lead to service disruption.  Note that such an on-
>    path attacker may make more damage (e.g., randomly drop packets).
>
> > Section 5.2.1 allows for IPv6 encapsulation using SR6, so there is no
> > issue with MTU that any encapsulation technique would encounter.  It
> > uses DSCP for QoS, so there no use of flow labels or additional
> > headers.
> >
> > Nits:
> > Figure 32 table has some formatting errors.
> >
>
> [Med] Thanks for reporting this. Will check how to fix it as the issue
> seems to be only for html while the txt version is OK.
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations
> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc
> pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez
> recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler
> a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages
> electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,
> Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou
> falsifie. Merci.
>
> This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged
> information that may be protected by law;
> they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation.
> If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and
> delete this message and its attachments.
> As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been
> modified, changed or falsified.
> Thank you.
>
>