Re: [Int-dir] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis-15

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Fri, 05 January 2024 06:04 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Dave Thaler <dave.thaler.ietf@gmail.com>, "int-dir@ietf.org" <int-dir@ietf.org>
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Thank you Dave for your review.

As you may have read, I have referred to it in my "No Objection" ballot.

Regards

-éric

On 28/12/2023, 00:31, "Int-dir on behalf of Dave Thaler via Datatracker" <int-dir-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:int-dir-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of noreply@ietf.org <mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:


Reviewer: Dave Thaler
Review result: Ready with Issues


See https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aqj-Bj9PNivcn-MfckCWPYEAplaCJw?e=5TZtui <https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aqj-Bj9PNivcn-MfckCWPYEAplaCJw?e=5TZtui> for a copy with
my comments and editorial nits inline.


Summary:
1. I am confused by the discussion of "forwarding" packets addressed to the
Active Router's address. The Abstract and Introduction seem to talk about
doing it but then section 8.3.1 says not to. 2. Missing discussion of DHCPv4. 
Section 1.3 seems to imply that static configuration of end hosts is the
primary mechanism for learning default routes, which is not the case for
clients or IoT devices as far as I know... DHCP is the default. I believe VRRP
can still be used in a DHCP scenario and the document should say so. 3. Section
4.2's discussion of IPv6 is confusing to me (and I wrote one of the relevant
RFCs). If there are two routers sending RA's on the same LAN, then by default
all hosts learn _both_ of them. The text implies half learned one and half
"are using" the other one. This text needs to be clarified and then probably
reference RFC 4191 and RFC 4311 for more discussion. Even better would be to
update the text to specifically discuss the interaction between VRRP and 4311
(which I think would be straightforward), and if needed mention different cases
for the different host types in RFC 4191 section 3 (it's also possible that the
interaction with VRRP is the same for all the types and the types need not be
mentioned except to say that the interaction is the same for all the host types
there). 4. A couple places use "should" in cases where it's unclear whether it
means SHOULD or MUST (or even "MAY" when "may" occurs earlier in the text). 
This could adversely affect interoperability if it meant MUST and someone
interprets it as optional. 5. Section 8.3.2 says to log when multiple routers
advertise priority = 255, but doesn't say to log when multiple routers
advertise the same non-255 priority. It says not to do that, so why wouldn't
you want to suggest logging any time the same priority is advertised by
multiple routers? I.e., why is the logging recommendation limited to the 255
case? 6. Various grammatical nits.




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