Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour
David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Sun, 09 February 2014 03:18 UTC
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Phillip, On Feb 8, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote: > > I proposed giving the governments the blocks, not that they be encouraged to put them into service. > > How would you dissuade them? > > For the address blocks to be any use, deployment of IPv6 would have to be achieved. The blocks I suggest are large enough to provide a sovereign reserve but not so large that they could be used without considerable consideration and planning. And governments are well known for considerable consideration and planning? > My expectation is that most countries would subcontract management of their blocks to a specialist just like most of them subcontract management of their CC TLDs. In other words, they'd put the addresses into service albeit through a third party? > > Threat of a US blockade of IPv6 addresses is a legitimate and realistic concern. > > How would that work exactly? > > Pinhead in Congress realizes that he might get the Cubano vote in Florida if he suggests kicking Cuba off the Internet. Attaches amendment to some must pass bill that causes the head of ICANN or the RIRs to go to jail if they give addresses to Cuba. Congress votes for it because they don't want their scorecard to be dinged. And how exactly would that stop LACNIC from allocating addresses from their /12 to entities in Cuba (hint: ISPs in Cuba already gets their address space from LACNIC)? Regards, -drc
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Eliot Lear
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… John Levine
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Andrew Sullivan
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Larry Masinter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… S Moonesamy
- [Internetgovtech] interaction meta Re: Discussion… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Levine
- Re: [Internetgovtech] interaction meta Re: Discus… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] interaction meta Re: Discus… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] interaction meta Re: Discus… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John R Levine
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour David Conrad
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour David Conrad
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phill
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour David Conrad
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Discussion of principles fo… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John C Klensin
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour John C Klensin
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [Internetgovtech] Let's be specific Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Let's be specific Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Dave Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Let's be specific Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] the WCIT detour Larry Masinter