Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M&O bits
Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> Mon, 13 October 2008 16:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M&O bits
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:03:14 +0200
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On 13 okt 2008, at 17:40, Thomas Narten wrote: > OK, I'm going to wade back into this and say that I believe we've > botched things. Let's take a typical client implementor, who looks at, > say, RFCs 4861, 4862 and/or RFC 3315 (the DHCPv6 spec). > > Question: just when are they supposed to invoke DHCPv6? All the time? > Only if the M or O bits are set? This simply isn't clearly > defined. This is broken and teh IETF really needs to make a > recommendation. Seems to me that this is simple enough: no bits, no DHCP. "Always" is not an acceptable out of the box behavior. (!!!) Then if there is M you do stateful DHCPv6, if there is O stateless. The only problem would be if bot O and M are set. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M… Thomas Narten
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- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Thomas Narten
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Christian Huitema
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bob Hinden
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David Conrad
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Markku Savela
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… TJ
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Kadirvel Chockalingam Vanniarajan
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Tony Hain
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… TJ
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Dunn, Jeffrey H.
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Alain Durand
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- Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of specs w.… Thomas Narten
- RE: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Manfredi, Albert E
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- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Mark Smith
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- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… hyunwook cha
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- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
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- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Ralph Droms
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Greg.Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Pekka Savola
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Kadirvel Chockalingam Vanniarajan
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-c… HYUN WOOK CHA
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… HYUN WOOK CHA
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-c… HYUN WOOK CHA
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- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ralph Droms
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