Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M&O bits
Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi> Fri, 17 October 2008 11:48 UTC
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From: Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi>
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To: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M&O bits
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> From: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> > 1. Is the following text an accurate summary of the previous IETF > consensus on the definition and use of M/O bits: > > The M/O flags indicate the availability of DHCPv6 service for > address assignment and other configuration information, > respectively. The IPv6 specifications make no requirements on the > behavior of DHCPv6 clients in response to the values of the M/O > flags received in RAs. YES. > 2. Does the IETF choose to continue to accept this consensus or should > the definition of client behavior in response to the M/O flags be > revisited? > 2. YES: Is that consensus adequately described in the IPv6 RFCs or > should > the IPv6 RFCs be revised in some way to describe the consensus > requirements? YES. I don't know how to fix the descriptions, for example a host prepared to support multihoming, would - configure addresses from RA, and - if it sees M/O, it might *also* try to acquire additional addresses from DCHPv6 - if also might acquire IPv4 addresses via DCHPv4, and get the DNS servers from it (to be used for both IPv4 and IPv6 resolutions) Or a host might wait for RA, and see if M/O are set. Depending on some local configuragtion toggle in the host, it could either prefer DHCPv6 or RA address configuration. Or based on some configuration toggle on a host, it could just do DHCPv6 without waiting RA. Or, etc... There are many possible needs for the host, I don't think IETF should limit the possible actions by a too restrictive specification. ps. I still think that the RA could also include DNS server addresses (as proposed by some RFC? Draft?) -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… hyunwook cha
- Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior with M… Thomas Narten
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Thomas Narten
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- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Christian Huitema
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bob Hinden
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David Conrad
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Markku Savela
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… TJ
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Kadirvel Chockalingam Vanniarajan
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Tony Hain
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Tony Hain
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… TJ
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Dunn, Jeffrey H.
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
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- RE: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… Ole Troan
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- Re: /128 address allocation and "localized IPv6 a… hyunwook cha
- Re: /128 address allocation and "localized IPv6 a… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: /128 address allocation and "localized IPv6 a… Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: /128 address allocation and "localized IPv6 a… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: /128 address allocation and "localized IPv6 a… Rémi Denis-Courmont
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- Re: Node req: Issue 8 (RFC 5175 - extensions to R… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… H. Peter Anvin
- Re: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… Mark Smith
- Re: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… H. Peter Anvin
- RE: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… Christian Huitema
- Re: [dhcwg] /128 address allocation and "localize… H. Peter Anvin
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… hyunwook cha
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Alain Durand
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of specs w.… Thomas Narten
- RE: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Thomas Narten
- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Thomas Narten
- Re: Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness of spec… Mark Smith
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… hyunwook cha
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Cost of multicast [was Re: Brokenness… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… trejrco
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Ralph Droms
- RE: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Greg.Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Greg.Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ralph Droms
- Re: Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client behavior wi… Pekka Savola
- RE: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Kadirvel Chockalingam Vanniarajan
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Brokenness of specs w.r.t. client beh… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-c… HYUN WOOK CHA
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… HYUN WOOK CHA
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-c… HYUN WOOK CHA
- RE: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-c… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Brian Haberman
- RE: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-i… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Ralph Droms
- Re: RE: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "dra… HYUN WOOK CHA
- Re: Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "dra… Joseph Hyunwook Cha
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