Re: [ippm] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with COMMENT)

Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Thu, 21 June 2018 21:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ippm] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Alissa,

> On Jun 21, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
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> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: No Objection
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> I support Adam's DISCUSS.

Ok. Let me respond to that on the thread Adam has initiated.

> 
> Section 1.1: I'm surprised to see the two references to the long-expired NFVRG
> drafts. If a reference to describe virtualized infrastructure using
> orchestration is really needed (I'm not convinced that it is), I would assume a
> better reference exists from outside the IETF/IRTF.

I did a Google search for the topic of one of the drafts, and top hits came from IEEE. But both the papers are available on a subscription basis. What is the policy for quoting papers that are not publicly available?

To the question for the need to have a reference to virtualized infrastructure, the authors are merely pointing out that the problem of measurement is more acute because of scale. We are happy to drop the reference. 

Please advise. 

> 
> Section 5.2:
> 
> OLD
> "Encrypted mode 'makes it impossible to alter
>              timestamps undetectably.' See also Section 4 of RFC 7717
>              and Section 6 of RFC 4656."
> 
> NEW
> "Encrypted mode 'makes it impossible to alter
>              timestamps undetectably' [Section 6 of RFC 4656]. See also
>              Section 4 of RFC 7717.”

Will fix.

Thanks.

> Process comment more for the AD: the YANG doctors reviewed a version of this
> more than a year ago. Is that typical or would they normally review again
> during IETF LC?
> 
> 

Mahesh Jethanandani
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