Re: [ippm] some notes on draft-morton-ippm-delay-var-as-03
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 21 August 2007 10:42 UTC
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To: "Schmoll, Carsten" <Carsten.Schmoll@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Subject: Re: [ippm] some notes on draft-morton-ippm-delay-var-as-03
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Carsten, Thanks for your comment. > Dear authors, > > I have recently read the ippm-delay-var-as > draft and believe it is on the right way. > > For me it is clearly the most complete > comparison PDV vs. IPDV up to now and very > helpful to understand the nitpicks of each definition. > > Let me add a few observations from my own work > in this area here: > > a) as PDV is clearly a shifted version of the > delay itself, its statistics can be directly > derived from the delay (OWD) statistics when > in addition the reference value is known. > Good remark. Will be added to the next version of the draft. > Even though I believe it has its own justification and use. > > b) For IPDV it would be nice to know, how symmetrical > it is in practice. If it is very symmetric in > almost all cases then one might as well work > with the stats applied to abs(IPDV) only. > If unsymmetric IPDV distributions appear then > one should present a positive and a negative high > percentile or something like inter-quartile range > as resulting statistics (in addition to mean IPDV in any case) > > Does anyone have results wrt. the symmetricity? > I would also be interested in the results. > c) Esp. for IPDV it is not clear to me the effect > of the packet selection function: Esp. the question: > Does the size of the gaps between selected packets have an > influence on the distribution of the resulting IPDV values? > Not sure. I advice my customers to use the same spacing as the service they try to monitor. Example: 20 ms in voice. > (in theory yes (I could give an example), but in practice?) > > I will have a more detailed look at the draft in the next > week and then write some specific comments as well. > > In general I'd say the draft should be concluded > with something like a table which recomends clearly > the use of PDV or IPDV and suggested stats > per desired application. > ok. Regards, Benoit. > Best regards, > Carsten. > > -- > > ### !! ATTENTION !! Change of email address! Please use in future only: > carsten.schmoll@fokus.fraunhofer.de ### > > "The difference between theory and practice is that in theory theory and > practice are the same but in practice they are not." > > Dipl.Ing. Carsten Schmoll Fraunhofer Institute FOKUS > carsten.schmoll@fokus.fraunhofer.de National Research Institute > Fraunhofer FOKUS / dept. NET for Open Communication Systems > Tel: +49-30-3463-7136 Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 31 > Fax: +49-30-3463-8136 D-10589 Berlin, Germany > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm >
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- [ippm] some notes on draft-morton-ippm-delay-var-… Schmoll, Carsten
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