Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry & draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Fri, 15 February 2019 04:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry & draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry
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Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> writes: > We haven't received much feedback to the list on the metrics registry > document. Please do take a look at the current revisions of the > documents, and provide your opinion on whether or not the documents > are ready to progress! I haven't been following this work, but I've done quite a bit of reviewing for Gen-Art. And while I suspect the design and technical work is probably quite solid by this point, I have to agree with Tom Petch that the *document* isn't. As he notes, the instructions to IANA for setting up the registry are really difficult to read if you start reading at the "IANA Considerations" section with the question, "What is the structure of the registries?" and "What entries are to be added to the registries?" As a first example issue, what are the names of the registries? I see the text This document specifies the procedure for Performance Metrics Name Element Registry setup. IANA is requested to create a new set of registries for Performance Metric Name Elements called "IETF URN Sub- namespace for Registered Performance Metric Name Elements" (urn:ietf:metrics:perf). Each Registry, whose names are listed below: MetricType: [...] Is the registry name "IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Performance Metric Name Elements", or is it "MetricType"? The section really ought to recite each registry's name, its column names, and the meanings of the column's values. In addition, as Tom Petch points out, the documents specify a new second-level URN namespaces under "ietf". (See file:///home/worley/www.iana.org/assignments/params/params.xhtml#urn-subnamespaces.) But the drafts do not reference RFC 6924, which contains the registration procedures for such second-level namespaces. However, it appears there are no particular requirements for this assignment other than IETF review. Dale
- [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-regi… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… tom petch
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… tom petch
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… tom petch
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-… Tommy Pauly