Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry & draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry

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From: tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com>
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Subject: Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry & draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy Pauly" <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 4:22 PM

> Hello IPPM,
>
> We haven't received much feedback to the list on the metrics registry
document. Please do take a look at the current revisions of the
documents, and provide your opinion on whether or not the documents are
ready to progress!

I shall probably regret this but my opinion is a firm Not Ready.

You are asking IANA to do what seems like an awful lot of work and
making it more work than I think you have reason to do so IMHO e.g.

You are asking for urn: registrations but do not follow the procedure
for registering a new urn:

You are asking for new somethings but do not use the terminology of
RFC8126

In Initial Registry, your IANA Considerations say
   IANA is requested to populate The Performance Metric Registry defined
   in [I-D.ietf-ippm-metric-registry] with the values defined above.
which seems to be asking IANA to trawl through some 78 pages to find
some 24 references to IANA and try to understand what is being asked of
them,
while not using a template as is the custom.

If I was IANA, I would say, 'On your bike'; but knowing how IANA love
rising to a challenge, they may well take it on - but if they do, I
expect
that the quality will suffer just because they are being asked
to do so much

Tom Petch

> Best,
> Tommy
>
> > On Jan 10, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello IPPM,
> >
> > This email starts our working group last call for the IPPM
performance metrics registry, and the corresponding initial set of
registry entries. The authors have indicated that they believe the
documents are sufficiently mature and complete to go ahead. You can find
the details on the documents here:
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry/
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry/>
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry/
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry/>
> >
> > Since these are quite large documents, we'll be doing an extended
adoption call, for several weeks, to give everyone a chance to
thoroughly read the documents. Please provide your feedback by Friday,
February 8, 2019.
> >
> > Please send your review comments to ippm@ietf.org
<mailto:ippm@ietf.org>, indicating whether you believe the draft is
ready to send up to the IESG and if not, why not.
> >
> > Best,
> > Tommy (as IPPM co-chair)
>
>


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