Re: [ippm] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-14: (with COMMENT)

["MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alvaro,

Thanks again for your review and comments.

Please see replies marked [acm] below.
Al

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> I have a significant issue related to the approval of this initial
> registry,
> and then a minor point.
> 
> (1) This is the significant issue:
> 
> §2:
> 
>    This document defines the initial set of Performance Metrics Registry
>    entries, for which IETF approval (following development in the IP
>    Performance Metrics (IPPM) Working Group) will satisfy the
>    requirement for Expert Review.  Most are Active Performance Metrics,
>    which are based on RFCs prepared in the IPPM working group of the
>    IETF, according to their framework [RFC2330] and its updates.
> 
> s/IETF approval/IESG Approval
> There is no "IETF approval" policy in rfc8126.
> 
> Even though it is self-serving for this document to provide guidance on the
> approval for the new registry entries, I think that it should be possible to do
> so using IESG Approval given that these initial entries into the new registry
> have been reviewed by the WG.  However, draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry only
> explicitly talks about using Specification Required (including Expert Review),
> and it makes no exceptions.
> 
> This document should not make statements about criteria used for this initial
> registration, so §2 should be deleted.
[acm] 
OK, but I think it is fair to keep parts of Section 2, which is the Scope.

Here's the revised version I suggest:
This document defines a set of initial Performance Metrics Registry entries. 
Most are Active Performance Metrics, which are based on RFCs prepared in the 
IPPM working group of the IETF, according to their framework [RFC2330] and its
updates.

> 
> draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry should be explicit about the initial population
> of the registry.  I am them balloting DISCUSS on that other document to address
> the approval of the initial registry entries in this document.
[acm] 
Added an explicit mention of the initial-registry draft at the end of the Scope
of draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry.


> 
> (2) Minor point:
> 
> §1: "The process in [I-D.ietf-ippm-metric-registry] also requires that new
> entries are administered by IANA through Expert Review or IETF Standards
> action, which will ensure that the metrics are tightly defined."   The
> registration policy defined in I-D.ietf-ippm-metric-registry is "Specification
> Required", which requires the review of an expert.
> 
[acm] 
good catch, fixed.