[ippm] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-14: (with COMMENT)

Alvaro Retana via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Tue, 03 December 2019 22:33 UTC

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Subject: [ippm] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-14: (with COMMENT)
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Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-14: No Objection

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I have a significant issue related to the approval of this initial registry,
and then a minor point.

(1) This is the significant issue:

§2:

   This document defines the initial set of Performance Metrics Registry
   entries, for which IETF approval (following development in the IP
   Performance Metrics (IPPM) Working Group) will satisfy the
   requirement for Expert Review.  Most are Active Performance Metrics,
   which are based on RFCs prepared in the IPPM working group of the
   IETF, according to their framework [RFC2330] and its updates.

s/IETF approval/IESG Approval
There is no "IETF approval" policy in rfc8126.

Even though it is self-serving for this document to provide guidance on the
approval for the new registry entries, I think that it should be possible to do
so using IESG Approval given that these initial entries into the new registry
have been reviewed by the WG.  However, draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry only
explicitly talks about using Specification Required (including Expert Review),
and it makes no exceptions.

This document should not make statements about criteria used for this initial
registration, so §2 should be deleted.

draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry should be explicit about the initial population
of the registry.  I am them balloting DISCUSS on that other document to address
the approval of the initial registry entries in this document.

(2) Minor point:

§1: "The process in [I-D.ietf-ippm-metric-registry] also requires that new
entries are administered by IANA through Expert Review or IETF Standards
action, which will ensure that the metrics are tightly defined."   The
registration policy defined in I-D.ietf-ippm-metric-registry is "Specification
Required", which requires the review of an expert.