RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt - availability
"Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com> Tue, 02 May 2006 13:53 UTC
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From: "Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com>
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Subject: RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt - availability
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Hi Al, |Users experience network performance in at least two states: |available or "broken" (unavailable) where typically some |sort of failure or misconfiguration cannot be restored automatically |and requires human intervention. | |The tricky part is defining the performance levels that |constitute the transitions between the two states, |and keep them application-independent for simplicity. Exactly. |Despite the difficulties, Availability is probably one of |the most important network metrics, as far as real users |are concerned. Yes, it is part of many product descriptions and SLAs. Regards, Rudiger |At 08:39 AM 5/2/2006, Geib, Ruediger wrote: |>Stas, |> |>Real time and leased line services are characterised by an |>"availability". I think availability is a useful and common |>means to characterise these services. Today, there's only a |>meausurement principle for IP service availability. There's |>no commonly implemented IP service availability measurement |>(RFC2678 on connectivity proposes some metrics which may be |>useful). |> |>The idea is that you define a service availability over time. If the |>service is available, the metrics you've listed below are applied to |>characterise the service. If the service is not available, |>then no further performance characterisation is required. |> |>As more real time services start to be migrated to the |>Internet, measuring IP transport availability may be of interest. |> |>Regards, |> |>Rudiger |> |> |>Carsten|> * additionally "availability" could be one metric |>|> (probably with param = (list of) server(s) or network) |> |>Stas|Why aren't existing metrics enough? When no packets |>|come through, you'll see |>| |>|delay = +infinity |>|loss = 100% |>|jitter = undefined |>|duplication = 0% |>|reordering = 0% |>| |>|Is that not enough? |> |>_______________________________________________ |>ippm mailing list |>ippm@ietf.org |>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm | | |_______________________________________________ |ippm mailing list |ippm@ietf.org |https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm | _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Al Morton
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Schmoll, Carsten
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Schmoll, Carsten
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Henk Uijterwaal
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Fardid, Reza
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Al Morton
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Henk Uijterwaal
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Schmoll, Carsten
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Henk Uijterwaal
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting - availa… Al Morton
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting - availa… stanislav shalunov
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Al Morton
- Re: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… stanislav shalunov
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Henk Uijterwaal
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Schmoll, Carsten
- RE: [ippm] draft-shalunov-ippm-reporting-00.txt -… Geib, Ruediger