Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions Related to IETF Documents"
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 15 August 2008 08:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions Related to IETF Documents"
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Bill Fenner wrote: > On Aug 10, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Ed Juskevicius wrote: >> On behalf of the IETF Trustees, we invite your >> review and final comments and suggestions on this >> policy. > > Here's part of an email that I posted last week on the ipr wg list, > which hasn't received much comment but I would like the trustees to > consider: > > When I was updating section 4 [of 1id-guidelines] > (which talks about the optional > restrictions in 6b.) I ran across a minor hiccough -- 3978 allows the > 6.b.ii. statement, "This document may not be modified, and derivative > works of it may not be created, and it may not be published except as > an Internet-Draft.", to be split into two: "This document may not be > modified, and derivative works of it may not be created." and "This > document may only be posted in an Internet-Draft." are in different > sections of 3978. The section of 3978 that mentions this also > mentions optionally giving extra permissions for MIBs/PIBs published > with this restriction: "other than to extract section XX as-is for > separate use." > > -incoming only mentions that there are instructions in the Legend > Instructions, which I assume are the same as the IETF Trust's Legal > Provisions Relating to IETF Documents, so I can't really tell from > that whether the wg intentionally removed these options; the trust > intentionally removed these options; the trust unintentionally removed > these options; or other. As far as I understand it, the WG desired the ability for these code pieces to be "code licensed", just as for all other code, but the "extra permissions" stuff was never discussed, AFAIK. So seen from the WG's perspective, I think having an optional ", other than to extract code components under the Code License" would be a Good Thing; it seems to me that people who post restricted I-Ds (for whatever reason) would be surprised if we started licensing their code pieces, so it's better to get them to be explicit and allow us to do so. My opinion. Harald _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
- Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions Rela… Ed Juskevicius
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Simon Josefsson
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Ray Pelletier
- RE: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Frank Ellermann
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Simon Josefsson
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Simon Josefsson
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Simon Josefsson
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal ProvisionsR… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Ray Pelletier
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … George Willingmyre
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Bill Fenner
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Bill Fenner
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Last Call for Comments on " Legal Provisions … TS Glassey