RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt
"Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreras@haledorr.com> Fri, 09 May 2003 12:09 UTC
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Subject: RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt
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In an attempt to make the language of this document consistent with that of Scott Bradner's Rights in Technology document, I would suggest that the term "claim" (which was thought in the Rights in Technology discussion to be confusing) be replaced with the term "IPR disclosure". The reason the word "claim" is confusing is because it can apply both to an IPR disclosure made within the IETF process AND to a claim of a patent -- two very different concepts. -----Original Message----- From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald@alvestrand.no] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:13 AM To: Pekka Savola; ipr-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Hi Pekka! I like this thinking - and once we get the IPR claims into a database so that it's mechanical to generate "the list of all IPR claims known to pertain to this document set", it shouldn't add that much overhead either. (I wouldn't want to be responsible for doing it today....) One comment: > http://www.netcore.fi/pekkas/ietf/draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt The document says: If claims arrive during or after the last call period, prior to the approval of the document, a new last call should be announced. some issues with this one: - if the new last call resets the clock, it makes the process take longer (especially for individuals, which get 4-week Last Calls) - if claims arrive after Last Call expiry, but before IESG approval, they won't get noticed by the community I suggest instead: If claims are filed after the beginning of the Last Call, but before IESG disposition of the document, and less than four weeks after the end of the Last Call, the filing of the claim is announced using the same method as for the Last Call. If claims are filed more than four weeks after the end of the Last Call, but the IESG has not yet made final disposition of the document, a new Last Call MUST be made before the IESG makes its final disposition. (the "four weeks" is a tunable parameter - I just picked a value) In the case I hope to be normal some time in the future (optimist!), the first paragraph should be enough to inform the community and the IESG about the IPR issues. In the case of documents returned to the WG by the IESG for working out issues found in Last Call or IESG review, this often takes quite a bit of time, so reissuing the Last Call when it comes around again is a reasonable way to notify the community of changed IPR filings. Adds another 2 or 4 weeks to the clock, but if we're more than 4 weeks delayed already, this might not be too critical. Thoughts? Harald _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Contreras, Jorge
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Contreras, Jorge
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Scott W Brim
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Ling, Hung C (Hung)
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt todd glassey
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt graham.travers