Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt
Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Sun, 11 May 2003 04:43 UTC
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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: todd glassey <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, ipr-wg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt
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On Sat, 10 May 2003, todd glassey wrote: > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > > I like this thinking - and once we get the IPR claims into a database so > > > that it's mechanical to generate "the list of all IPR claims known to > > > pertain to this document set", it shouldn't add that much overhead > either. > > > > Indeed, a repository change would make this much easier. > > > > > (I wouldn't want to be responsible for doing it today....) > > > > Yes, it's a bit difficult, but if you know the draft(s), doing a grep in > > the IPR repository index and subdirectories should give you a rather good > > reassurance on this. > > This is too much work for the IETF to have to maintain, further if you are > maintaining it and any of its wrong - you get this liability. There is no way around it. Decisions have been called back for process errors before. If someone notices IESG forgot to add a mention of this later on, the case could be revisited. I don't see how this gives anyone a legal liability. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Contreras, Jorge
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Contreras, Jorge
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Scott W Brim
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Ling, Hung C (Hung)
- RE: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt todd glassey
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-01.txt graham.travers