Re: draft-ietf-ipr-rules-update-00.txt

sob@harvard.edu (Scott Bradner) writes:

> Simon sez in another message
>
>   now I'm in the position where I find no
>   legal text whatsoever from the IETF that permit me to use the RFCs in
>   my products.  The current permissions only grant rights to the
>   IETF/ISOC; not to me nor my customers.
>
> that is a misunderstanding
> 1/ 3rd parties may republish RFCs any time they want
> 2/ 3rd parties may extract RFCs for inclusion in documentation, help 
>    pages etc

Again, please quote where BCP 78 give me these rights.  I believe it
does not give me these rights.

> but this ID (and current rules) do not say that someone can take a RFC, 
> modify it and republish it unless its done within the IETF standards process
> or unless the IETF has given speciifc permission to do so
> (note, as was mentioned during the last discussio, it may not be
> a bright line between publishing extracts linked together by new text
> and publishing a modified RFC)

True.  And free software typically need the rights to be able to
modify the included documentation and help pages.  That is why the
rights to be able to that should be granted to everyone by the IETF.

Thanks,
Simon

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