Re: Normatively referenced specifications
Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Wed, 18 December 2013 18:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: Normatively referenced specifications
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On 12/18/2013 10:09 AM, Michael Cameron wrote: > But Dave may be right when the IPR is owned by one entity This is the sort of attempt at nuance that is impractical and, by my reading, does not apply to the IETF's disclosure requirement: RFC 3979: 6.6. When is a Disclosure Required? IPR disclosures under Sections 6.1.1. and 6.1.2 are required with respect to IPR that is owned directly or indirectly, by the individual or his/her employer or sponsor (if any) or that such persons otherwise have the right to license or assert. This language does not care about whether the resulting specification text is by reference or direct exposition. It does not care whether the content is standardized elsewhere. It does not care how the information is packaged or how the resulting use of the information is packaged. What it cares about is the knowledge and 'interest' of the contributor, during their participation in IETF discussions. The rule is nicely simple and without nuance. Let's not try to invent nuanced interpretation of it. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
- Normatively referenced specifications SM
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Black, David
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications SM
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dale Mohlenhoff (dmohlenh)
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dale Mohlenhoff (dmohlenh)
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Lawrence Rosen
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dave Crocker
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Michael Cameron
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Michael Cameron
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications John C Klensin
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dave Crocker
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dave Crocker
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Michael Cameron
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Michael Cameron
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dale Mohlenhoff (dmohlenh)
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Joel M. Halpern
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications John C Klensin
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications Dale Mohlenhoff (dmohlenh)
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Michael Cameron
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications todd glassey
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications John C Klensin
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications Black, David
- RE: Normatively referenced specifications SM
- Re: Normatively referenced specifications SM