Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS)
Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> Tue, 02 May 2017 12:27 UTC
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From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-09: (with DISCUSS)
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Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) writes: > so first updating is a request to IANA, so you have to remove the > first sentence. Agreed, forgot to remove that. > Then the update of the UPD port should probably be done in a > separate document that potentially also obsoletes 3947 if that was > missed with 7296. No point of doing that. Publishing 1 page document doing IANA updates is just stupid and does not help anybody. If it cannot be done here, we can leave it as it is now, and I talk to IANA and change this thing separately. As this is clearly a error in the IANA registry, they have fixed this kind of mistakes before without any need for documents especially when registry is not RFC required or similar. They do like to get document requests just for keeping track of changes, and thats why I think it would be better to combine the changes in this document, as we are going to change the TCP/4500 anyways, and fixing the UDP/4500 references at the same time would be easy. And yes, RFC7296 did forget to obsolete RFC3947, but this is not the document do that, and thats why I did not suggest this to do anything like that. I suggested just fixing the reference from the RFC3947 to RFC3948, as RFC3948 actually describes the protocol used over the port 4500. RFC3947 does not specify the protocol for port UDP/4500, it just refers to the RFC3948 for protocol details. Adding RFC7296 would be good, as it provides latest information about the IKE interactions for the RFC3948 (i.e., 7296 still uses 3948 defined protocol, but replaces the non port 4500 related details which were in the 3947). This is just to make sure the people reading the RFC3948 also gets pointer to the IKE parts of the protocol (as RFC4306/5996/7296 forgot to obsolete 3947). -- kivinen@iki.fi
- [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-i… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ie… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [IPsec] Mirja Kuehlewind's Discuss on draft-i… Tommy Pauly
- [IPsec] Should draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-10 u… Paul Wouters
- Re: [IPsec] Should draft-ietf-ipsecme-tcp-encaps-… Tommy Pauly