Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-ipsec-00.txt (fwd)

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From: "Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jun.hu@nokia.com>
To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>, "ipsec@ietf.org WG" <ipsec@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-ipsec-00.txt (fwd)
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Some initial questions/comments:
1. security label is defined as opaque data in the draft, but then how would narrowing work in an inter-op way with opaque data? Or should we define the format for some common use cases (like security enforcement, QoS ...) , and adding a sub-type in TS_SECLABEL
2. currently there are TSi (44) and TSr (45) payload, does it make sense to include TS_SECLABEL in either TSi or TSr? Is there semantic to have separate "initiator SECLABEL" and "responder SECLABEL"? Or does it make more sense to only allow single TS_SECLABEL per message/CHILD_SA, and create a new TS payload type , put TS_SECLABEL in it ?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IPsec [mailto:ipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wouters
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 7:36 AM
> To: ipsec@ietf.org WG <ipsec@ietf.org>
> Cc: Sahana Prasad <sahana.prasad07@gmail.com>
> Subject: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sprasad-ipsecme-
> labeled-ipsec-00.txt (fwd)
> 
> 
> 
> Sahana and I wrote the initial draft for Labeled IPsec. I'm not sure why it didn't
> auto-email the list, so links follow below. Please discuss :)
> 
> Paul
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-ipsec-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Sahana Prasad and posted to the IETF
> repository.
> 
> Name:		draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-ipsec
> Revision:	00
> Title:		Labeled IPsec Traffic Selector support for IKEv2
> Document date:	2018-03-04
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		6
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sprasad-ipsecme-
> labeled-ipsec-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-
> ipsec/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sprasad-ipsecme-labeled-
> ipsec-00
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sprasad-ipsecme-
> labeled-ipsec-00
> 
> 
> Abstract:
>     Some IPsec implementations support Security Labels otherwise known as
>     Security Contexts, to be configured as a selector within the Security
>     Policy Database (SPD) for IPsec SAs.  This document adds support to
>     IKEv2 to negotiate these Security Labels or Contexts using a new
>     Traffic Selector (TS) Type TS_SECLABEL.  The approach is named
>     "Labeled IPsec".  It assumes that the SPD processing of RFC 4303 is
>     already extended to support Security Labels.  This document only adds
>     the ability for IKE to negotiate the Security Labels used with the
>     SPD.
> 
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