Re: [IPsec] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00.txt

Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 24 December 2013 22:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00.txt
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Hi Valery,

Thanks for posting this draft.

One quick comment: the interaction of your proposal with EAP is not 
clear to me, i.e. when one peer uses Null auth and the other uses EAP. 
There are cases where this should be forbidden (e.g. MSCHAP, where the 
unauthenticated peer can mount a dictionary attack) and other cases 
where this is OK. Specifically, for the methods listed as "safe" in Sec. 
4 of RFC 5998, I believe this use would be secure.

Happy holidays!

	Yaron

On 12/24/2013 03:47 PM, Valery Smyslov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just posted a draft, defining NULL Authentication method in IKEv2.
> This method may be used for anonymous access or in situations,
> when peers don't have any trust relationship, but still want
> to get protection at least against passive attacks.
>
> Regards,
> Valery.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> To: "Valery Smyslov" <svan@elvis.ru>; "Valery Smyslov" <svan@elvis.ru>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:40 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00.txt
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Valery Smyslov and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth
> Revision: 00
> Title: The NULL Authentication Method in IKEv2 Protocol
> Document date: 2013-12-24
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 8
> URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00.txt
>
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth/
> Htmlized:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-00
>
>
> Abstract:
>    This document defines the NULL Authentication Method for IKEv2
>    Protocol.  This method provides a way to omit peer authentication in
>    IKEv2 and to explicitely indicate it in the protocol run.  This
>    method may be used to preserve anonymity or in situations, where no
>    trust relationship exists between the parties.
>
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