[Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace?
"Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@lucent.com> Thu, 13 January 2005 23:25 UTC
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Subject: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace?
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Folks, In order to close the last open issue with trunk-group, I had a series of email exchanges with the WG chairs, the results of which now need to go before the WG to decide how to move forward. The last open issue was how to resolve the case where an incoming call request does not have a calling party's number available. How do we indicate the originating trunk group? We had almost reached a solution in the form of the following URI: Contact: <sip:telurifmt;tgrp=foo@example.com> (the I-D exhorts originating trunk groups to go in the Contact header). In the email exchange with the WG chairs, Jonathan has suggested a couple of issues: first, the fact that a trunk group can exist without a phone number appears to imply that it is cannot be associated with a tel URI and may, in fact, indicate that this is a new resource complete with its own scheme. Something like: trgrp:trunk-group-id[:phone-number]@domain Second, saving the originating trunk group in the Contact header is not semantically correct; if the originating trunk group is to be used for routing, then Contact is not the semantically correct header to save this information in. Here is my take on these issues. The second one is easier to tackle, so let me try that first. Jonathan is accurate in pointing out the semantic use of Contact header. How- ever, we reached a decision long time ago in the life of the trunk-group I-D that we would like NOT to have parameters like ;o-tgrp=xxx;t-tgrp=yyy in the R-URI. Hence we decided to put the originating trunk group in the Contact header with the understanding that when it is used for routing in the reverse side, it will appear in the R-URI position. But what if it is used in routing on the initiating side? The first issue -- trunk-group being a new resource -- is an interesting one. It has ramificiations, if we decide to go that route. Where will it appear? In a new header(s)? as parameters to the R-URI or the Contact URI? We will need a short paragraph on how to convert trgrp URIs to sip URIs or tell URIs, ... So, we have some choices to make: Regarding putting originating trunk group information: do we want to leave it in the Contact header or find a new place for it? Regarding representing trunk group information itself: do we want hash out more abstractly the relationship between the trunk group and the phone number from a namespace prespective? To make matters worse, I will point out that we already have a few implementations that are following http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-02.txt. So depending on what we decide, the implementations will be impacted. Opinions and comments welcome. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani vkg@{lucent.com,research.bell-labs.com,acm.org} Wireless Networks Group/Internet Software and Services Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Innovations, 2000 Lucent Lane, Rm 6G-440 Naperville, Illinois 60566 Voice: +1 630 224 0216 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel
- [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Vijay K. Gurbani
- RE: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Shan Lu
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Vijay K. Gurbani
- RE: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Shan Lu
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Vijay K. Gurbani
- RE: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? shanlu
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Shan Lu
- RE: [Iptel] Is trunk group a new namespace? Shan Lu