IPv6 link-local traffic questions
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 12 March 2020 00:00 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: IPv6 link-local traffic questions
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Sorry for cross posting, but this is both ops and arch questions. I was trying to find any generic description that/if link-local IPv6 traffic MUST/SHOULD use Hop-count 1, but could not find one in rfc8200 or rfc4291 and its updates. Instead, text like MUST set Hop-limit to 1 is repeated in various RFCs using link-local IPv6 traffic. Am i overlooking something ? Or is this intentional in the IPv6 architecture ? If intentional, i guess it means: Any RFC introducing some type of link-local traffic can specify Hop-limit requirements for its traffic. As in "our WG likes 42 as the Hop-limit" (silly to me, but should be fine with IPv6 architecture then, right ?). In one of my draft document reviews using such link-local IPv6 traffic, EricV brought up the Q if that traffic shouldn't use RFC5082 instead of Hop-Count 1 too. But given how we do not seem to have architectural recommendations for TTL=1 (unless, quite likely i overlook something), and given how i am not aware of any actual use of GTSM, i am quite weary to go down that route. Aka: Would like learn of actual uses of GTSM with IPv6. There is an additional set of consideration re. link-local traffic when trying to use it as a HW accelerated tunneling mechanism across links, a use we both have in ANIMA, and maybe get the same in BIER (probably other WGs too, not sure). In implementations, i have seen quite a range of issues with accelerated forwarding planes across link-local addressed tunnels, and when using non-link-local addresses (loopback addresses), the HW plane forwarding might have issues doing HW forwarding, because usually TTL=1 is only used for control plane traffic. Of course, this is not a good architectural argument, but if given architectural leeway to even choose 42, maybe GTSM/255 is easier to be supported across various HW accelerated forwarding planes than 1. Opinions and experiences welcome! Thanks! Toerless
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- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gyan Mishra
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- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Karl Auer
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gert Doering
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- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Toerless Eckert
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Stewart Bryant
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Toerless Eckert
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Tony Przygienda
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Erik Kline
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 link-local traffic questions Brian E Carpenter
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