RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Transmission of IPv6 Jumbograms as Atomic Fragments

"Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Wed, 17 November 2021 22:45 UTC

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From: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Transmission of IPv6 Jumbograms as Atomic Fragments
Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: Transmission of IPv6 Jumbograms as Atomic Fragments
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Brian, I came through the supercomputer lab at NASA Ames in Mt View CA in 1996/7
where HiPPI was heavily used. I didn't spend much time there, but enough to get a
rough read that large packets are plausible.

At some time not long after that, I had the good fortune to meet Dave Borman and
asked him about RFC2675 with a "YMBK" pre-disposition toward the concept. Dave
assured me that the document was serious, and I do not see evidence that it has
been deprecated.

So, do I know of any such mega-links? Not offhand, but AFAICT RFC2675 is still part
of the IPv6 architecture and needs to be honored as such.

Thanks - Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:39 PM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>; 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Transmission of IPv6 Jumbograms as Atomic Fragments
> 
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> Fred,
> 
> Is there any evidence of usage of jumbograms? To my knowledge, even the high energy phsyics community, one of the main proponents of
> jumbograms back in the days when HIPPI seemed important, doesn't use them, despite extensive use of IPv6 for bulk data.
> 
> Regards
>     Brian
> 
> On 18-Nov-21 06:54, Templin (US), Fred L wrote:
> > Here is a new draft that may be of interest. It is a quick read (~2pgs) and proposes to
> > update RFC2675 by permitting transmission of IPv6 jumbograms as atomic fragments.
> >
> > Please post comments to the list.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:09 AM
> > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > Subject: I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-jumbofrag-00.txt
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> >
> >
> >          Title           : Transmission of IPv6 Jumbograms as Atomic Fragments
> >          Author          : Fred L. Templin
> > 	Filename        : draft-templin-6man-jumbofrag-00.txt
> > 	Pages           : 4
> > 	Date            : 2021-11-17
> >
> > Abstract:
> >     Internet Protocol, Version 6 (IPv6) provides a service for
> >     transmission of IPv6 packets larger than 65,535 octets known as
> >     "jumbograms".  Such large packets are not eligible for fragmentation,
> >     and the current specification forbids the inclusion of a fragment
> >     header of any kind.  However, some implementations may wish to
> >     include an Identification value with each jumbogram; hence this
> >     document proposes the transmission of IPv6 jumbograms as "atomic
> >     fragments".
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-jumbofrag/
> >
> > There is also an htmlized version available at:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-templin-6man-jumbofrag-00
> >
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >
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