Re: New Version Notification for draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17.txt

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 09 May 2019 14:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17.txt
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
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Le 08/05/2019 à 06:21, Gyan Mishra a écrit :
> Hi Alex
> 
> I did a test in the lab for that one use case of making the default link 
> local EUI64 more intuitive in the lab and Id id a worst case scenario 
> test populating all the 16 bit nibbles and all hex digits within each 
> nibble so no :: 0's compression on a Cisco IOS XE router running 16.x 
> code and confirmed the OSPF neighbor still comes up even though the 
> entire 54 bit all 0's field per the RFC is populated in effect violating 
> the current RFC but because its like-like intra-vendor the OSPF 
> adjacency forms.
> 
> So I have tested this concept and it works across all Cisco platforms 
> IOS, XE, XR, NXOS that you can populate the entire 54 bit all 0's field.
> 
> So the big caveat with this and justification for this draft is "mix 
> vendor" environment inter-operability" which is one of the reasons for 
> the IETF and to have RFC's and standards that allows any device from any 
> vendor to communicate that supports the RFC.     I think that is a MAJOR 
> point to add to the justification behind the RFC in the use cases where 
> on a managed IPv6 network that the administrator can now hardcode the 
> IPv6 address fully populating entire 54 bit subnet-id & station-id and 
> routing protocols will now work and OSPF, ISIS, EIGRP adjacency can now 
> work in a mix vendor environment.

So I make a section called 'Justification'.

> R1
> ipv6 addr fe80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111 link-local
> 
> R2
> ipv6 addr fe80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:2222 link-local
> 
> R1#sh ipv6 ospf nei
> 
>              OSPFv3 Router with ID (1.1.1.1) (Process ID 6000)
> 
> Neighbor ID     Pri   State           Dead Time   Interface ID    Interface
> 2.2.2.2      1   FULL/DR         00:00:35    18              
> GigabitEthernet1/0/2

Thanks for illustrating what you mean.

Maybe a Neighbor ID of the form fe80:2::2 could help OSPF IPv6.

Alex

> 
> R1#sh ipv6 ospf int g1/0/2
> GigabitEthernet1/0/2 is up, line protocol is up
>    Link Local Address FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111, Interface 
> ID 18
>    Area 2.2.2.2, Process ID 6000, Instance ID 0, Router ID 1.1.1.1
>    Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1
>    SHA-1 authentication SPI 666661, secure socket UP (errors: 0)
>    Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State BDR, Priority 1
>    Designated Router (ID) 2.2.2.2, local address 
> FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:2222
>    Backup Designated router (ID) 1.1.1.1, local address 
> FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111
>    Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
>      Hello due in 00:00:03
>    Graceful restart helper support enabled
>    Index 1/5/14, flood queue length 0
>    Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0)
>    Last flood scan length is 2, maximum is 9
>    Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec
>    Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 1
>      Adjacent with neighbor 2.2.2.2  (Designated Router)
>    Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s)
> 
> R2#sh ipv6 ospf nei
> 
>              OSPFv3 Router with ID (2.2.2.2) (Process ID 6000)
> 
> Neighbor ID     Pri   State           Dead Time   Interface ID    Interface
> 1.1.1.1   1   FULL/BDR        00:00:37    18              
> GigabitEthernet1/0/2
> 
> R2#sh ipv6 ospf int g1/0/2
> GigabitEthernet1/0/2 is up, line protocol is up
>    Link Local Address FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:2222, Interface 
> ID 18
>    Area 2.2.2.2, Process ID 6000, Instance ID 0, Router ID 104.255.32.2
>    Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1
>    SHA-1 authentication SPI 666661, secure socket UP (errors: 0)
>    Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1
>    Designated Router (ID) 2.2.2.2, local address 
> FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:2222
>    Backup Designated router (ID) 1.1.1.1, local address 
> FE80:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111:1111
>    Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
>      Hello due in 00:00:05
>    Graceful restart helper support enabled
>    Index 1/5/14, flood queue length 0
>    Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0)
>    Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 7
>    Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec
>    Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 1
>      Adjacent with neighbor 1.1.1.1  (Backup Designated Router)
>    Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:32 AM Alexandre Petrescu 
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi 6MANners,
> 
>     I submitted the version 17 of this draft about variable plen for LLs.
> 
>     This is the ChangeLog:
> 
>     -17: added a new use-case for sysadmins in need of an intuitive LL
>            address (to check with ping) used for next-hop of routing
>            protocols.
> 
>     -16: added a description of the behaviour of ifconfig
>            fe80:1::1/32 on MAC OS and Windows 10 Operating Systems;
> 
>            added a suggestion about the use of ULA prefixes instead of LL
>            prefixes;
> 
>            added a reference to an RFC 7404 about the use of
>            only LL addresses in an IPv6 network;
> 
>            explained the result from practice of the use of 'fe80::1:2/64';
> 
>            explained why the text says 'hidden' for '%' on some OSs;
>            mentioned the DNS kind of solutions;
> 
>            added explanation of manual configuration and automation;
> 
>            added exaplanation of an example of complex to remember and type
>            link-local addresses;
> 
>            added explanation of why DNS solution is a problem mouvement, not
>            problem resolution.
> 
>     Alex
> 
>     -------- Message transféré --------
>     Sujet : New Version Notification for
>     draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17.txt
>     Date : Tue, 7 May 2019 01:27:36 -0700
>     De : internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>     Pour : Naveen Kottapalli <naveen.sarma@gmail.com
>     <mailto:naveen.sarma@gmail.com>>, Loganaden Velvindron
>     <loganaden@gmail.com <mailto:loganaden@gmail.com>>, Alexandre
>     Petrescu <Alexandre.Petrescu@cea.fr
>     <mailto:Alexandre.Petrescu@cea.fr>>,
>     Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com <mailto:hayabusagsm@gmail.com>>,
>     Alexandre Petrescu
>     <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr>>
> 
> 
>     A new version of I-D, draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17.txt
>     has been successfully submitted by Alexandre Petrescu and posted to the
>     IETF repository.
> 
>     Name:           draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len
>     Revision:       17
>     Title:          The length of the prefix of an IPv6 link-local
>     address ranges
>     from 10 to 127
>     Document date:  2019-05-06
>     Group:          Individual Submission
>     Pages:          14
>     URL:
>     https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17.txt
>     Status:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len/
>     Htmlized:
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17
>     Htmlized:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len
>     Diff:
>     https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-petrescu-6man-ll-prefix-len-17
> 
>     Abstract:
>          A rejected Erratum to RFC4291 "IPv6 Addr Archi" on the topic of
>     link-
>          local addresses 'would need' a draft.  This draft is an answer to
>          that need.
> 
>          The length of the prefix of an IPv6 link-local address is variable.
>          The minimal value is 10 decimal.  The maximum value is 127 decimal.
> 
> 
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