Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Thu, 14 June 2018 19:25 UTC
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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:25:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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I think we need to discuss prefixes from both an Operational use and an Allocation context. On the Operational of side things, discussing issues like SLAAC needing a /64 prefix, a static assignment can be any length, and /127s for point to point links seem appropriate. I think we also need to define Static Assignment. I chose Static Assignment, over Manual Assignment, because with the creation of servers and networks via scripts with Puppet and Chef, manual doesn't satisfactorily describe that situation in my opinion. On the Allocation side of things, discussing issues like Nibble Alignment, Sparse Allocation, End Site Assignments, and addressing plans are in order. Based on the issues around ITU-T SG20 discussion, it seems to me that the IETF should probably say more about what makes a good addressing plan. Thanks. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > Maybe, instead of Longest Acceptable Prefix, we should speak about > Longest Operational Prefix, or some word that implies: "that will work" > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt David Farmer
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Fernando Gont
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Tom Herbert
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Mark Smith
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt David Farmer
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Nick Hilliard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Lorenzo Colitti
- Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-00.txt Brian E Carpenter