Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-ipv6-3177bis-48boundary-00.txt

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

Hi Thomas,

I've read yesterday this document, and I'm basically ok with it, but with
two considerations that I think must be worked out it parallel somehow:
1) HD-Ratio modification, as it seems to be an integral part of the
discussion.
2) I've the feeling that if we suggest the ISPs to move to a /56, they will
then charge the customers (SOHO, end-users) or create to them a lot of
troubles to get a bigger prefix when this is needed. My feeling is that
today we believe that 8 bits for subnetting is enough, but I think will not
be the case soon and this barrier will then be again a stopper for enabling
innovation. I know this one is somehow not an IETF business, but we must be
worried about that and may be collectively work for the appropriate solution
in the appropriate fora. Otherwise, I will much prefer not to change the /48
to something smaller. Note that I don't think the RIRs are neither a good
fora for making a policy which avoids that the addresses are being charged
at all (hopefully I'm wrong !).

The cost of managing addresses is not a recurrent cost. I mean, it will be
ok to charge for a reasonable setup fee if somebody ask for a /48 instead of
a /56, but charging 12Euros (or even more) per month per address as some
telcos do in EU is a crime.

We need to make sure that anything like that happens with IPv6 ! Otherwise,
we better stop deploying IPv6 now.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Thomas Narten <[e-mail]>
> Responder a: <[e-mail]>
> Fecha: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:44:02 +0200
> Para: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> Asunto: FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-ipv6-3177bis-48boundary-00.txt
> 
> Here's an ID for consideration by the IPv6 WG.
> 
> Background:
> 
> Discussion on the more general topic took place at the April ARIN and
> May RIPE meetings.  A good summary of those presentations can be found
> at:
> 
> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-50/presentations/ripe50-plenary-wed-ipv
> 6-roundtable-report.pdf
> 
> A more general discussion of the overall topic of IPv6 address
> allocation considerations (the /48 boundary topic is just one piece of
> a larger puzzle) can be found at:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-narten-iana-rir-ipv6-considerations-
> 00.txt
> 
> Thomas
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> Title  : IPv6 Address Allocation to End Sites
> Author(s) : T. Narten, et al.
> Filename : draft-narten-ipv6-3177bis-48boundary-00.txt
> Pages  : 8
> Date  : 2005-7-12
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>    This document revisits the IAB/IESG recommendations on the assignment
>    of IPv6 address space to end sites. Specifically, it indicates that
>    changing the default end-site assignment for typical home and SOHO
>    sites from /48 to /56 is consistent with the goals of IPv6 and RFC
>    3177. Although it is for the RIR community to make adjustments to the
>    IPv6 address space allocation and end site assignment policies, the
>    IETF community would be comfortable with RIRs changing the default
>    assignment size to /56 for smaller end sites. This document obsoletes
>    RFC 3177 and reclassifies it as historic.
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