Comments on draft-ietf-6man-exthdr-01.txt (was: Some comments questions on draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr-08)

Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> Tue, 21 December 2010 23:51 UTC

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Folks,

FWIW, I never got a response to these comments I sent a while ago....

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Fernando




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Some comments questions on draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr-08
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:50:40 -0300
From: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
To: ipv6@ietf.org <ipv6@ietf.org>,  Suresh Krishnan
<suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>, jhw@apple.com, ek@google.com,
Jim_Hoagland@symantec.com <Jim_Hoagland@symantec.com>

Folks,

Some comments/questions regarding the aforementioned I-D:

* Meta:
As noted by Ran Atkinson, I think you should clearly state what sort of
options that would not fit in the Hop-by-Hop or the Destination Options
headers you think could be specified (that would warrant yet another
extension header)  -- Existence of this would be the motivation (or lack
of) to pursue the proposal in this document.

Specific comments:

* Section 2 states:

> The intention of the base IPv6 Specification [RFC2460] that
> destination hosts not be permitted to skip unknown extension headers
> continues to apply.

Isn't this I-D all about allowing nodes to skip unknown headers??


* Section 2 states:

> Another one is that this generic extension header conserves values in
> the IPv4 protocol numbers registry.

Of the top of my head, less than 25% of that space is used. And this is
not going to change much (at least in the IPv4 world), as it is
virtually impossible to use such packets across unmanaged NATs.


* Setion 2 (2.  Generic IPv6 Extension Header (GIEH) format).

Why not simply enforce a TLV format? (i.e., no "Specific Type" at all)



* Section 4

> 4.  Exceptions
> 
> The the Generic IPv6 extension header is generic enough that it is 
> suitable to use for most applications.  However, it is possible that 
> the GIEH does not satisfy the requirements in all cases where new 
> extension headers are required.  Hence, the existence of this
> generic header does not necessarily preclude the definition of new 
> independent IPv6 extension headers.

If this not going to be enforced for all new headers, is this worth the
effort?


* Section 5 (Future work)

>From the PoV of a firewall, this is simple: either the traffic complies
with my policy, or I block it.

Put another way: if the extension header is unknown, this is the reason
(other than the unknown syntax) for the firewall to block it.

Thanks!

Kind regards,
-- 
Fernando Gont
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