Re: New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-6man-next-hop-ra-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 24 February 2014 03:35 UTC

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On 15/02/2014 06:35, Dan Lüdtke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have very mixed feelings regarding this draft and I have not yet
> decided whether it is me or the draft :)

It's probably the fact that the community is very divided as to whether
this, or a DHCPv6 based solution, is the right one for delivering
routing information to hosts. Personally I see advantages in defining
enough in RA that a DHCPv6-free network is possible, but it only
makes sense if we insist that routing information capable of delivery
by RA and that capable of delivery by DHCPv6 have *exactly* the same
semantics (even if the syntax of the messages is different).
...

> I also have the feeling that consuming 7 numbers from the registry for
> new options is a bit too greedy. Do you see any way to reduce the
> consumption of this very limited resource? I think it would help
> supporting the draft a lot.

Since an address is the same thing as a /128 prefix, I would
think that the address TLVs could be replaced by prefixes,
which would save at least a couple of option numbers. If that
isn't enough, it would have to go to subtypes.

    Brian