Re: SAILing LAPs

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 20 June 2018 12:23 UTC

Return-Path: <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B581310A9 for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.633
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.633 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ijmil_BRydei for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 05:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BB47130DC7 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 05:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id w5KCN4OU007833 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:23:04 +0200
Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B108B206358 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:23:04 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7656201380 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:23:04 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id w5KCN4Hs012935 for <ipv6@ietf.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:23:04 +0200
Subject: Re: SAILing LAPs
To: ipv6@ietf.org
References: <152946990900.32509.15132787302635646979@ietfa.amsl.com> <50bdcf46-de26-66cd-415d-0c964fd38d57@gmail.com>
From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <604bb098-7de2-b219-17c0-e4ea6bb587ed@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:23:04 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <50bdcf46-de26-66cd-415d-0c964fd38d57@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: fr
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/ajjwzX7jMdxMLLBDWLBneCGoMPA>
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:23:09 -0000

I find this Internet Draft to be a little help in the right direction - 
encouraging.

We know BSD implements various lengths for IIDs, including 64 and 63, 
for SLAAC.

We also know linux kernel does not support any other length than 64.  An 
effort of a kernel programmer of approximately 3 days could not make 
linux kernel accept plen 65 and self-configure an address.  I am still 
looking for someone for help.

Alternatively, this IoT Router's Qualcomm modem does not _want_ to allow 
DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation outgoing UDP port number 547.  They are what 
can be qualified as stubborn :-)

For me, this is kind of an urgent matter.  We build a prototype onboard 
IoT Router to connect a car on cellular network.  It does 64share, and 
further down the car network there is L2 bridging too.  However, deeper 
inside there are further IP subnets - webcam and others.  IPv6 can not 
reach them.

If by end of July I dont get this 65plen and 63IIDlen working then my 
onboard IPv6 design definitely has a conceptual flaw.

I find this Internet Draft to be a little help in the right direction - 
encouraging.

Alex

Le 20/06/2018 à 06:47, Brian E Carpenter a écrit :
> A new version with an additional term defined, following a suggestion
> by Mark Smith.
> 
> Again: this draft doesn't discuss the issues. Its only goal is to give us
> some better terminology.
> 
>      Brian
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-lap-01.txt
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:45:09 -0700
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> 
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>          Title           : The Longest Acceptable Prefix for IPv6 Links
>          Author          : Brian Carpenter
> 	Filename        : draft-carpenter-6man-lap-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 4
> 	Date            : 2018-06-19
> 
> Abstract:
>     This document introduces the concepts of a Longest Acceptable Prefix
>     (LAP) and a Shortest Acceptable Identifier Length (SAIL) for an IPv6
>     link.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-lap/
> 
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-lap-01
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-6man-lap-01
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-carpenter-6man-lap-01
> 
> 
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> I-D-Announce mailing list
> I-D-Announce@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce
> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list
> ipv6@ietf.org
> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>