"RFC4941bis" and draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 18 July 2017 14:52 UTC

Return-Path: <fgont@si6networks.com>
X-Original-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE474131AA9 for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FlWKkOa6Mkud for <ipv6@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:52:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [IPv6:2001:67c:27e4::14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE961317CA for <6man@ietf.org>; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [46.13.174.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fgont.go6lab.si (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E8F18270B; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:53:54 +0200 (CEST)
To: "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
Subject: "RFC4941bis" and draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids
Message-ID: <4d1ef3d1-1c21-ec76-7c1b-7bb0f5eaa805@si6networks.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:52:50 +0300
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/rGCvQUIPt5pxtQV1_C8a2bdoXKc>
X-BeenThere: ipv6@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IPv6 Maintenance Working Group \(6man\)" <ipv6.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/>
List-Post: <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6>, <mailto:ipv6-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:52:28 -0000

Folks,

Among the list of RFCs to be progressed to full std is/was RFC4941
("Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6").

As it stands, RFC4941 has a number of issues:

* Using the same IID for multiple prefixes
* Not changing the IID upon "security events" (including e.g., change in
the underlying MAC address)
* Using MD5 as opposed to something better
* Requiring the use of temporary addresses along stable addresses
(preventing use of temporary-only, for nodes that feel like)
* Not treating IIDs as opaque values (see RFC7136)  when generating the
randomized IIDs (see step 3 in section 3.2.1 of RFC4941)
* Mandating one specific algorithm, when the same goals/properties can
be achieved with multiple algorithms (see section 4 of
draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-01)


Based on the above, I personally don't think that it would make sense to
progress RFC4941 to Internet Standard, but rather think that we should
work on  a replacement of it -- our proposal being
draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-01.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492