Re: correct
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 17 June 2019 08:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: correct
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
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From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Le 15/06/2019 à 19:28, Warren Kumari a écrit : > ' i > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:59 AM Alexandre Petrescu > <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 06/06/2019 à 22:17, Warren Kumari a écrit : >>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:46 PM Sander Steffann >>> <sander@steffann.nl> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Alexandre, >>>> >>>>> I maintain that 1111 1110 10 equals 0x3fa, because that's >>>>> what my Windows Calculator says: I type 1111 1110 10 and it >>>>> converts to 0x3fa. >>>>> >>>>> On another hand, I am rhetorically asked how can 1111 1110 10 >>>>> be 0x3fa? >>>>> >>>>> (the 1111 1110 10 are the 10 leading bits of the IPv6 link >>>>> local addresses, which is familiarly known to start with an >>>>> fe80). >>>>> >>>>> On my side, this is a difficulty to understand this 0xfe80, >>>>> especially since 1111 1110 10 is so printed in Figure in >>>>> RFC4291. >>>> >>>> It's a prefix of an IPv6 address. IPv6 addresses are 128 bits >>>> long. Expand to 128 bits and try again :) >>>> >>>> 1111 1110 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 >>>> 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 >>>> 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 equals >>>> 0xfe800000000000000000000000000000. Not sure if Windows >>>> Calculator can handle that though… >>> >>> Windows calc probably can't, but: $ echo 'print hex(0b1111111010 >>> << (128-10))' | python >>> >>> or https://repl.it/repls/AwareDecentGeeklog if you don't have >>> Python (because windows :-p) >> >> For sake of completeness, google puts '1111111010 in hex' as >> 0x423A3562. > > Your point? One billion, one hundred and eleven million, one hundred > and eleven thousand and ten is, in fact, 0x423A3562 In exactly the > same way, if you enter '1+1' it gives you 2, and not 0b10. > > Perhaps you actually meant "0b1111111010 to hex", which it > correctly converts to 0x3FA. True, that was the error. > A number of people have (in my opinion very politely) suggested that > you spend some time reading up on subnetting. I'd second this > recommendation, and suggest "Internet Routing Architectures" by Sam > Halabi > (http://www.ciscopress.com/store/internet-routing-architectures-9781578702336 > > ) - while it was written in 2000, and is focused on IPv4, the concept > is *exactly* the same. > > I suspect that, at this point, I'm simply being trolled -- I want to excuse to you and others if feeling trolled. It is not my intention. > unfortunately though, as the Operations AD I often have to counter > the accusation that the IETF is detached from operations and doesn't > understand how protocols we design are used -- this thread fully > plays into that. I read it. Alex > > W > >> >> qwant does not convert it. >> >> Alex >> >>> >>> W >>>> >>>> Cheers, Sander >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >>>> ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> > >>>> > >
- Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Bob Hinden
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Tom Herbert
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Sander Steffann
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Warren Kumari
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Fred Baker
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Karl Auer
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Fred Baker
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Mudric, Dusan (Dusan)
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Tom Herbert
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or... Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or... James R Cutler
- RE: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Mudric, Dusan (Dusan)
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Tom Herbert
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Yucel Guven
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Yucel Guven
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Yucel Guven
- RE: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Mudric, Dusan (Dusan)
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Yucel Guven
- IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 1110 1… Bob Hinden
- RE: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Mudric, Dusan (Dusan)
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Erik Kline
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Dennis Ferguson
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Ross Finlayson
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Ole Troan
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Fred Baker
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Dennis Ferguson
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Ole Troan
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Kerry Lynn
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Erik Kline
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Gyan Mishra
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Ole Troan
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Gyan Mishra
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Yucel Guven
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Gyan Mishra
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Mark Smith
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Ola Thoresen
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses [was Re: Is 1111 11… Yucel Guven
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: 1111 1110 10 equals 0xfe80 to 0xfebf Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or... Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Warren Kumari
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Warren Kumari
- Re: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Sander Steffann
- Re: 1111 1110 10 equals 0xfe80 to 0xfebf Simon Hobson
- RE: Is 1111 1110 10 equal to 0xfe80 or 0x3fa? Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Gyan Mishra
- Re: IPv6 Link Local Addresses Gyan Mishra
- Re: correct Alexandre Petrescu