Re: Confirmation Call on Resolution of Errata 5170, 5171, 5172, 5173 on RFC8200

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Thu, 05 December 2019 10:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: Confirmation Call on Resolution of Errata 5170, 5171, 5172, 5173 on RFC8200
From: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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Fernando,

> My question is: what's the rationale for rejecting the errata?

I believe that has been answered.
There are not 4 separate solutions that map directly to each individual errata 5170, 5171, 5172 and 5173.
One errata with one solutions makes the fix consistent and consumable.

There might be an underlaying problem with the errata system. It conflates the bug reporting part with the document ammending part.
My preference would have been two separate tools. Barring that I would have preferred us to just have the above errata deleted.
Given the current state of process "reject" is the only choice.
I understand that you disagree with this position, although I cannot quite say I understand your rationale for why.

I was hoping that the focus on this discussion would be on getting the bug-fix right, rather than on process issues.
That is regardless Suresh' decision to make.

Best regards,
Ole