Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt
mike shand <mshand@cisco.com> Fri, 25 June 2010 08:06 UTC
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I agree with Donald that we don't want to unnecessarily burn the TLV codespace, and that the overhead of the occasional large sub-TLV within a TLV is not significant. Mike On 25/06/2010 03:56, Donald Eastlake wrote: > Hi Vishwas, > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Vishwas Manral<vishwas@ipinfusion.com> wrote: > >> Hi Don, >> >> I had a cursory look at the draft. >> >> I thought there was one issue you need to consider which might change the >> shape of the draft itself. Unlike all other protocols IS-IS TLV’s has a >> length field of only 8 bits which means that having sub-TLV’s which are very >> big is not preferred. Seeing the size of sub-TLV’s defined it seems we will >> as well need different TLV’s for each sub-TLV. I would think it is better to >> define them as separate TLV’s. >> > Thanks for your comment. I guess it would be nice for TRILL if some or > all of the proposed sub-TLVs were TLVs. But TLV types are a limited > resource. > > I've done a scan of the draft. I don't see any problem with the fixed > length sub-TLVs, which are small. They should fit fine within the TLV > specified to contain them. There are also a number of variable length > sub-TLVs. But I believe that, in many cases, these variable length > sub-TLVs will be fairly short. And in cases where they are larger, > perhaps not fitting in a single enclosing TLV, the enclosing TLV can > be repeated and I don't think the two bytes of overhead per repetition > are a big deal. > > So, if there is a consensus to change one or more of these sub-TLVs to > TVLs, I'd be happy to do that. Otherwise, I don't plan to make such > changes. > > >> Have a look at the TE related TLV’s. You will notice that SRLG is a separate >> TLV in itself (if memory serves me right). Let me go through the draft and >> give you information about the content itself. >> > SRLG? RFC 5305 specified three TLVs: > Extended IS Reachability > Traffic Engineering Router ID > Extended IP Reachability > > >> Thanks, >> Vishwas >> > Thanks, > Donald > > >> ________________________________ >> >> From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Donald Eastlake >> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:32 PM >> To: isis mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt >> >> >> >> A error has been pointed out on the TRILL WG mailing list: >> >> In Section 2.5, Page 17, Length is "1 + 9*n" not "2 + 9*n". >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Donald >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Donald Eastlake<d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've submitted a draft proposing IS-IS support for TRILL: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Donald >> >> ============================= >> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) >> 155 Beaver Street >> Milford, MA 01757 USA >> d3e3e3@gmail.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > -- For corporate legal information go to: www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri
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- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt mike shand
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt mike shand
- Re: [Isis-wg] draft-eastlake-isis-trill-00.txt Donald Eastlake