Re: [Isis-wg] FW: I-D Action: draft-white-openfabric-00.txt

"Russ White" <7riw77@gmail.com> Tue, 07 March 2017 13:36 UTC

Return-Path: <7riw77@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: isis-wg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: isis-wg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C5512947A; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 05:36:33 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.749
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.749 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fw8j4s9pA4EY; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 05:36:31 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ua0-x242.google.com (mail-ua0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7525A129486; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 05:36:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ua0-x242.google.com with SMTP id u30so383363uau.2; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 05:36:19 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=jLzAXyhS2nQXRBj8g7HxNEcDhhme7qtI5O5aGTnqZZY=; b=DekU7P2ItOkZaueKERVn7yo6z6Zg+zRR+sC9jX8nlVtqvQDu1tCWdbYRytrKyNmNu4 WVsCp9xqeX9oL0ooY1/HODqlsMFWAaoLwWC+N1mk8VcZp0u7n+K1I92rA8FnTE5qeTim BWU/OLY/4Msclw26uYSHG3egApSGQTYqqFgyiCxtLnOkc1bh0b5x9RQHzj2DmWaSBDRr /1QIBuTjvn1/aRn3+6u30kYbmYNQnwXWZ7CjRKffOHDnPJG2MDxwiNx9tQ5zSBlV6nGJ xAsL4VBB7sw1cU2uvMM3cRiq+6GiHaWlAX+NkOpKgo9JQpMQh213OH9QvCMjLMTVmriu w1/Q==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=jLzAXyhS2nQXRBj8g7HxNEcDhhme7qtI5O5aGTnqZZY=; b=gUZ8ZL5t1d8/WSVHhV2SM7d3N1v4ChGs70AJhsXsPBhy0mIuoLy0Rb8kGXQv9rZ/fi wZ4NffzeCpvz7qgp+XMpObKAE2/8X9kniERt1Lms6q7WA56dzOMDTt79NUyXbux+VI7F w77jYADoB55XL8AKaPtOS2lD2Q1qMawgVZvs6U9jRvFQ6cQJf4V4Do5B5i2Q6VeNYlGp rfLRoL9xjhPNFFdn3M2lqDf34N3RUb8MvUBAhSQidLxM/qfASU5NBZVwBtSG5OMJvIV+ IM21U7JpVKllgasg3CK6NLnJPBkkscoy6wkiU3g/qSycVkTivMZQnhjsVmWHS7f0tidc +d+A==
X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39lQ1JMV/kWZuKNlRmngXRSgn3BQZOirbM0kb7cbXi5UkqM4eAnNsOY2GvGWF5wCtQ==
X-Received: by 10.37.173.85 with SMTP id l21mr180355ybe.68.1488893778499; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 05:36:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: from Russ (162-229-180-77.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net. [162.229.180.77]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x3sm16093ywd.16.2017.03.07.05.36.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 05:36:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Russ White" <7riw77@gmail.com>
To: "'Hannes Gredler'" <hannes@gredler.at>, <rtgwg@ietf.org>, <isis-wg@ietf.org>
References: <148856628065.15830.3525312125332246258.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <02ee01d296e9$ec570d00$c5052700$@gmail.com> <4e4d4333-9a0e-1e03-955a-cdf9b7072373@gredler.at>
In-Reply-To: <4e4d4333-9a0e-1e03-955a-cdf9b7072373@gredler.at>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 08:36:15 -0500
Message-ID: <013801d29747$cb64f8b0$622eea10$@gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0
Thread-Index: AQNWQt4E90XAKMHWxi2c/u65al3g3gG7LIHEAm3O8PeeYMFX8A==
Content-Language: en-us
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/isis-wg/W7fwbtaXnynfFxVCxBzcpkeLyW4>
Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] FW: I-D Action: draft-white-openfabric-00.txt
X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group <isis-wg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/isis-wg>, <mailto:isis-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/isis-wg/>
List-Post: <mailto:isis-wg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:isis-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg>, <mailto:isis-wg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 13:36:33 -0000

>    OpenFabric implementations MUST NOT be mixed with standard IS-IS
>    implementations in operational deployments.  OpenFabric and standard
>    IS-IS implementations SHOULD be treated as two separate protocols.
> ---
> 
> any hard feelings about using MI as a way of guaranteeing that the two
> protocols are shielded from each other ?

Very good idea -- want to suggest text?

> 2) Modified Adjacency Formation
> 
> rather than doing the "only one adjacency is up" (which we did prior to
the
> graceful-restart SA bit) - suggest to use the graceful-restart 'SA'
> bit, such that a node can bring up the adjacency without generating a new
> LSP. The LSP can then be generated if the initial-sync is done (and the
new
> LSP arrival rate indicates that the dust is settling) such that the LSP
may get
> released.

This is a really good idea, actually... Again, you want to suggest text? :-)


> 3) Flooding Optimization
> it looks to me you have re-invented the OLSR MPR set.
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#section-8.2
> perhaps you may want to add a reference.

Very close -- but there's a tiny bit more optimization because of the fixed
topology than can be wrung out of that and/or the other MANET drafts. I
should actually add ref's to all of them, thanks for pointing this out.

:-)

Russ