Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Mon, 21 July 2014 12:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00
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Thanks Les - > Robert - > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:14 AM >> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints@tools.ietf.org; >> isis-wg@ietf.org; General Area Review Team >> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00 >> >> >> On 7/20/14, 11:04 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: >>> Robert - >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Isis-wg [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert >> Sparks >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:27 AM >>>> To: draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints@tools.ietf.org; isis-wg@ietf.org; >> General >>>> Area Review Team >>>> Subject: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00 >>>> >>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on >>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at >>>> >>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. >>>> >>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments >>>> you may receive. >>>> >>>> Document: draft-ietf-isis-tlv-codepoints-00 >>>> Reviewer: Robert Sparks >>>> Review Date: 20-Jul-2014 >>>> IETF LC End Date: 25-Jul-2014 >>>> IESG Telechat date: 7-Aug-2014 >>>> >>>> Summary: Basically ready for publication, but with process nits for the >>>> group and the IESG to consider >>>> >>>> Thanks for assembling such a clearly written document. >>>> >>>> The shepherd writeup should have discussed _why_ this document is >>>> intended for Proposed Standard. >>>> There is no protocol definition here, and nothing to progress on the >>>> standards ladder. This is, instead, >>>> primarily defining process. Why isn't this being progressed as a BCP? >>> The document does two things: >>> >>> 1)It updates some registries for sub-TLVs defined at >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/isis-tlv-codepoints/isis-tlv- >> codepoints.xhtml >>> As these changes are modifying the format (not the content) of registries >> used by a number of standards track RFCs it needs to be a standards track >> document. >> I don't believe that follows. A BCP could update these documents as well. > The registries define the codepoints which are sent on the wire by IS-IS implementations. This is absolutely essential for interoperability. I fail to follow your reasoning that a change to such a registry falls into the BCP bucket. > > That said, I don't really care about the category - my goal in writing this draft is to satisfy the process requirements to get what amount to editorial changes to the registry done. In this matter I am happy to follow the recommendations from IANA/IESG, Gen-ART, etc. So let's not argue - rather please build consensus with your peers in IANA/IESG as well as the ADs and I will happily agree so long as it accomplishes the original goal. Yes - the IESG can steer this at this point. > > Les > >>> 2)It defines procedures for early allocation of codepoints from the above >> registry. >>> While an argument could be made that this portion should be BCP, the fact >> that it is combined with #1 requires that the document be Standards track. >>>> Should this Update any of the RFCs that previously defined these >> registries? >>> Yes - it updates the following RFCs: 5130, 5311 >> The document header (and abstract) should be updated to indicate that. >>> Les >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Isis-wg mailing list >>>> Isis-wg@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg
- [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-tlv-c… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Isis-wg] Gen-art LC review draft-ietf-isis-t… Jari Arkko