RE: [Isms] draft meeting agenda for Dallas

Hi Dave,

--On 3/13/06 12:08 PM -0500 David B Harrington wrote:

> Hi Juergen,
>
> Should the agenda include a presentation reviewing the interim
> meeting, the proposed decisions, and the action items?

Would this contain more information than the minutes?
I think the minutes cover the results of the interim meeting well.

> Will the discussion be oriented toward the list of open issues from
> the wiki? If so, they should be summarized with the mailing list input
> so far. You should probably give the URL for the wiki in the agenda.

Yes, I will see if updates are still possible.

> Will the discussion be oriented toward the list of open issues from
> the [todo] and [discuss] markers in the documents? If so, they should
> be summarized with the mailing list input so far. This [todo] and
> [discuss] approach did not seem very effective at IETF64, because
> there are so many large issues we have not resolved.

We should focus on a few essential ones that are well suited to be
solved at a regular WG session.

> One action item from the interim was to arrange an editing meeting at
> IETF65. Do you intend to do so? What specific goals do you hope to
> achieve at such an editing meeting? My calendar is filling up; if we
> are going to have an editing meeting, let's get the date and time
> nailed down, please. Sunday may not be a good choice because people
> may not be plannign to arrive early enough. I know some of the SNMP
> experts have chosen to not attend IETF65, and others are planning to
> leave early in the week. That's going to really limit the options.

Unfortunately, I missed the welcome reception (stuck in the flood) for
exploring availability of people during the week.  It would be
beneficial to have such a meeting.  Let's see if we can still arrange it.

> The editing meeting at IETF64 went down a specific tangent/rathole
> (notifications and callback) and we never reached any clear decisions
> or did any editing. The interim became an education meeting, and it
> failed to achieve clear decisions for forward progress or provide any
> specific text for the documents. If we are going to have another
> editing meeting, can we do some actual editing of the documents? Let's
> address the ratholes on the mailing list and during the formal
> session, and avoid lots of review of documents people should have
> already read.

Agreed.

> David Harrington
> Standards Manager, IP OAM and Security
> FutureWei Technologies, a Huawei company
> dharrington@huawei.com
> dbharrington@comcast.net
> ietfdbh@comcast.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Juergen Quittek [mailto:quittek@netlab.nec.de]
>> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:08 AM
>> To: isms@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Isms] draft meeting agenda for Dallas
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Below please find the draft agenda for our session in Dallas.
>> Please send a message to the chairs if you have suggestions
>> for changes.
>>
>> Since we might have remote participants, it would be great
>> if the presenters sent me their slides in advance of the session
>> for uploading them.
>>
>> See you at the session,
>>
>>     Juergen
>> --
>> Juergen Quittek        quittek@netlab.nec.de       Tel: +49
>> 6221 90511-15
>> NEC Europe Ltd.,       Network Laboratories        Fax: +49
>> 6221 90511-55
>> Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany
>> http://www.netlab.nec.de
>>
>>
>> ============================================
>> Integrated Security Model for SNMP WG (isms)
>>
>> Wednesday, March 22 at 0900-1130
>> ================================
>>
>> CHAIRS: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de>
>>         Juergen Quittek       <quittek@ccrle.nec.de>
>>
>> AGENDA:
>>
>>   1) WG Status, Agenda bashing                     ( 5 min)
>>
>>   2) Discussion of TMSM open issues                (40 min)
>>      - draft-ietf-isms-tmsm-01.txt
>>
>>   3) Discussion of SSH model open issues           (60 min)
>>      - draft-ietf-isms-secshell-02.txt
>>
>>   4) Wrap up                                       ( 5 min)
>>      - review of action points
>>
>>
>> INTERNET DRAFTS:
>>
>> - Secure Shell Security Model for SNMP
>>   <draft-ietf-isms-secshell-02.txt>
>>
>> - Transport Mapping Security Model (TMSM) for the Simple Network
>>   Management Protocol
>>   <draft-ietf-isms-tmsm-00.txt>
>>
>>
>> RELATED DRAFTS:
>>
>> - RADIUS NAS-Management Authorization
>>   <draft-nelson-radius-management-authorization-02.txt>
>>
>>
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