Re: [Isms] SSHSMRADIUSIntegrationdraft(draft-narayan-isms-sshsm-radius-01.txt)submitted

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de> Fri, 16 March 2007 11:41 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Isms] SSHSMRADIUSIntegrationdraft(draft-narayan-isms-sshsm-radius-01.txt)submitted
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:26:08PM +0100, Eliot Lear wrote:
 
> And then Dave Harrington responded:
> 
> >So far, I have not seen any proposals, either written or just proposed
> >verbally, that provides a secure transport with all the security
> >characteristics of USM. A critical feature of USM, not provided by SSH
> >or TLS or RADIUS proposals so far, is local authentication with NO
> >ties to a third party authenticator.
> 
> Kaushik, Keith and I proposed a method last summer that would have 
> precisely addressed the 2nd sentence in that paragraph.  I believe this 
> leaves David Nelson's question somewhat unanswered.

Again, is a local password or key pair in the context of SSH not
exactly addressing the 2nd sentence above, namely "local
authentication with NO ties to a third party authenticator"? I remain
in the confused state for now.

/js

PS: Our implementation calls out to PAM and it actually does not
    matter whether you configure radius, something else, or local
    passwords if you like that.

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Juergen Schoenwaelder		 Jacobs University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

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