RE: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 IMSIs ...) - l ong
"Emad Qaddoura" <emadq@nortelnetworks.com> Wed, 09 February 2000 20:02 UTC
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From: Emad Qaddoura <emadq@nortelnetworks.com>
To: 'Fred Baker' <chair@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 IMSIs ...) - l ong
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Hi Fred, When we are ready for a new revision, we will apply your comments below. Thanks, Emad. > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Baker [mailto:chair@ietf.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:22 PM > To: acasati@lucent.com; afifi@sophia.inria.fr; Becker, Carey > [RICH2:2N10-M:EXCH]; bound@zk3.dec.com; bpatil@nortelnetworks.com; > charles.perkins@eng.sun.com; chuah@lucent.com; Qaddoura, Emad > [RICH2:IP10-M:EXCH]; grai@lucent.com; grosser@us.ibm.com; > Akhtar, Haseeb > [RICH1:IP15:EXCH]; jacobt@livingston.com; jinwang@lucent.com; > lode.coene@siemens.atea.be; lode.coene@vnet.atea.be; mccap@lucent.com; > Khalil, Mohamed [RICH2:IP15:EXCH]; pcalhoun@eng.sun.com; > Narayanan, Raja > [RICH1:IP14:EXCH]; randy@qualcomm.com; scott@cadzow.com; > tomhiller@lucent.com > Cc: itu+ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Fwd: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 > IMSIs ...) > - long > > > Folks: > > You are the authors of various drafts and RFCs before the > house. ITU SG2 > has requested (well, not in so many words, but this is what > they want) that > in your next revision of your documents, you include the > reference to E.212 > found near the end of this note, point to it at your first use of the > acronym "IMSI", and that you review the current E.212 > document to make sure > that your proposal is in keeping with the current specification. > > It might be worth your while to run that update by Mr. > Gallant for comment > when you make the change. > > Thanks for looking into that. > > Fred > > >From: Andrew.Gallant@comsat.com > >Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:47:21 -0800 > >To: itu+ietf@ietf.org > >Cc: "Ash; Gerald R (Jerry); ALARC" <gash@att.com>, > > Emad Qaddoura <emadq@nortelnetworks.com>, > > Haseeb Akhtar <haseeb@nortelnetworks.com>, > > Mohamed Khalil <mkhalil@nortelnetworks.com>, > > Raja Narayanan <raja@nortelnetworks.com>, > > "Shaw; Robert" <Robert.Shaw@itu.int>, > > "'fredgaechter@monmouth.com'" <fredgaechter@monmouth.com>, > > "Tar; John" <John.Tar@itu.int>, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> > >Subject: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 > IMSIs ...) - long > >Sender: itu+ietf-admin@ietf.org > >X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 > >List-Id: Joint ITU+IETF Discussion List <itu+ietf.ietf.org> > >X-BeenThere: itu+ietf@ietf.org > >X-SMTP-HELO: ietf.org > >X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: itu+ietf-admin@ietf.org > >X-SMAP-Received-From: outside > >X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176] > > > > This is a set of comments on Workshop Issue 7 (E.212 > IMSIs ...), and > > consists of: > > > > - description, > > - search results, > > - information on E.212, and > > - other comments. > > > > 1. From the Workshop Report, the description of Issue 7 is: > > > > - Issue #: 7 > > - Issue Title: E.212 - IMSIs & mobility with IP > > - Issue Description: In IETF documents, IMSI's are > > mentioned but ITU-T Rec E.212 > > is not often referenced. A review > > of the IETF documents is > > needed to ensure that the > > appropriate use of the term > > IMSI is used. > > - Related Work: Rec. E.212 > > Rec. E.214 > > 3GPP > > 3GPP2 > > - Responsible Forum: IETF > > > > 2. Internet Drafts and RFCs were searched for mentions > of E.212 and > > IMSIs. The search results were: > > > > - For E.212: 2 Internet Drafts > > 0 RFCs > > - For IMSI: 6 Internet Drafts > > 1 RFC (current > > > > The Internet Drafts mentioning E.212 were: > > > > - SS7 over internet applicability statement > > (draft-coene-ss7-over-ip-00.txt) and > > - Internet and SS7 addressing > > (draft-coene-ss7-IP-addr-00.txt). > > > > The Internet Drafts mentioning IMSI were: > > > > - Transparent Hierarchical Mobility Agents (THEMA) > > (draft-mccann-thema-00.txt) > > - Support of IPv6 over Cellular Communications Systems (6Tel) > > (draft-afifi-sixtel-00.txt) > > - IP Mobility Architecture Framework > > (draft-ietf-mobileip-ipm-arch-00.txt) > > - IP Mobility Architecture Framework > > (draft-becker-mobileip-ipm-arch-00.txt) > > - Key Exchange for Network Architectures (KENA) > > (draft-mkhalil-mobileip-kena-00.txt) > > - Mobile PPP (MPPP) > > (draft-ietf-pppext-mppp-01.txt) > > > > The RFC mentioning IMSI was: Wireless Device Configuration > > (OTASP/OTAPA) via ACAP (RFC2636). > > > > 3. Recommendation E.212 was revised by ITU-T Study > Group 2 in 1998. > > The title is "THE INTERNATIONAL IDENTIFICATION PLAN FOR MOBILE > > TERMINALS AND MOBILE USERS." The revision reflects the > more general > > scope of the term IMSI ("international mobile > subscriber identity" -- > > formerly known as the "international mobile station > identity") and > > what IMSIs could be used for. > > > > The "Table of Contents and Summary of Recommendation > E.212 (11/98)" > > may be found at > "http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/rec/e/s_e212.html". > > The summary is": > > > > "A plan for unique international identification of > mobile terminals > > and mobile users is required in order to enable these > terminals and > > users to roam among public networks which offer > mobility services. > > International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) is > required so that a > > visited network can identify a roaming mobile terminal > or mobile user, > > e.g. in order to query a subscriber's home network for > subscription > > and billing information. > > > > "Recommendation E.190 describes the general principles to be > > utilized in the assignment of ITU-T E-series > international numbering > > resources. The procedures in this Recommendation, E.212, were > > developed in accordance with the principles contained in > > Recommendation E.190, and the statements contained in > Recommendation > > E.190 take precedence over Recommendation E.212." > > > > The scope of E.212 is: "This Recommendation describes an > > international identification plan for mobile terminals > or mobile users > > of public networks enabling roaming capabilities. It > also establishes > > procedures for the assignment of International Mobile > Subscriber > > Identities (IMSIs) to the mobile terminals and mobile > users of such > > networks. This Recommendation describes the format of the IMSI." > > > > It is also noted there that: "an IMSI could be used to > identify a UPT > > user or a subscriber to mobility services, as well as > to identify a > > mobile terminal." > > > > A reference to E.212 from the ITU web site is: "[E.212] > > Recommendation E.212 (11/98) - The international > identification plan > > for mobile terminals and mobile users." > > > > 4. Other comments: > > > > a. As Fred Baker said in an email, "... fundamentally, > I think the > > ITU folks wanted to make sure that IETF use of "IMSI" > and theirs > > correspond ...". I agree. > > b. The revisions to E.212 may be of interest to the IETF. > > c. I am not aware of any other Workshop-related issues > for E.212 > > except for referencing the current version of the document. > > d. I am not aware of issues relevant to E.214, at > least in ITU-T SG2, > > and there's not been any recent work on it there. > Perhaps whoever > > suggested adding E.214 to the Related Work section of > the Workshop > > matrix could identify if there are any issues that do > fall within the > > Workshop's focus on Numbering, Naming, Addressing, and Routing. > > > > -Andy Gallant > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ITU+IETF mailing list > >ITU+IETF@ietf.org > >http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/itu+ietf > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Fred Baker | 519 Lado Drive > IETF Chair | Santa Barbara California 93111 > www.ietf.org | Desk: +1-408-526-4257 > | Mobile: +1-805-886-3873 > | FAX: +1-413-473-2403 >
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