[jose] Re: JOSE-HPKE @ 124? (was Re: (very) draft agenda for JOSE @ IETF 124)

[Karen ODonoghue <[e-mail]>]

He doesn't get special treatment. He publicly asked for agenda time. I
didn't see a reason to not give him that time.

Karen

On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 1:52 PM Tschofenig, Hannes
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> Hi JOSE chairs,
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> I wonder why Brian gets special treatment in this working group.
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> Ciao
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> Hannes
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> Von: Karen ODonoghue <[e-mail]> Im Auftrag von Karen ODonoghue
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. November 2025 19:07
> An: Brian Campbell <[e-mail]>
> Cc: JOSE WG <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
> Betreff: [jose] Re: JOSE-HPKE @ 124? (was Re: (very) draft agenda for JOSE @ IETF 124)
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> Hi Brian,
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> I’ve added you to the agenda for the JOSE-HPKE discussion. Please submit slides if you plan to use them.
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> Karen
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> On Oct 31, 2025, at 4:41 PM, Brian Campbell <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Thanks Karen (and the jose chairs),
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> Could I have some of the time allotted for JOSE-HPKE to continue the discussion from IETF 123?
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> At the last meeting, I made an impassioned plea for some improvements to the jose-hpke-encrypt (improvements that I strongly expect will be necessary eventually, even in the absence of my pleas). I left that meeting with the impression that there was interest in pursuing those improvements, and with the understanding that the authors would reach out to me and a few others to collaborate toward that goal.
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> However, no author has reached out, nor has any work on the draft progressed in that direction.
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:11 PM Karen ODonoghue <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Below is the draft agenda for the JOSE meeting next week. It obviously isn’t quite finished, but I wanted to get something uploaded. Please send me any requests, errors, or ommissions. Please also send a quick email to [e-mail] to confirm responsible person and rough time estimate.
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> DRAFT AGENDA:
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> JOSE Working Group @ IETF 124
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> Wednesday, 3 November 2025
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9:30 - 11:30 UTC (UTC -4)
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> St Denis
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> Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-124-jose
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> Please check https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/agenda for an updated link to the meetecho session.
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> Draft Agenda
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> 1.  Admin, Agenda Bash, document status (Chairs,)
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> 2.  JSON Web Proof Drafts (TBD, ?)
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> JSON Web Proofs https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-proof/
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> JSON Proof Algorithms https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-algorithms/
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JSON Proof Token https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-token/
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> 3.  Use of Hybrid Public Key Encryption (HPKE) with JSON Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE) (TBD, ?)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt/
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> 4.  Post-Quantum Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (PQ KEMs) for JOSE and COSE (TBD, ?)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem/
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> 5.  JOSE: Deprecate ‘none’ and ‘RSA1_5’ (?, 10 min)
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-deprecate-none-rsa15/
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> 6.  PQ/T Hybrid Composite Signatures for JOSE and COSE (Prabel, ?)
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prabel-jose-pq-composite-sigs/
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> 7.  Designated Verifier Signatures for JOSE (?, 10 min)
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-dvs/
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> 8.  Public Key Derived HMAC for JOSE
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-pkdh/
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> 9. AOB
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