[jose] Re: JOSE-HPKE @ 124? (was Re: (very) draft agenda for JOSE @ IETF 124)

[Karen ODonoghue <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

I’ve added you to the agenda for the JOSE-HPKE discussion. Please submit slides if you plan to use them. 

Karen

> On Oct 31, 2025, at 4:41 PM, Brian Campbell <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Karen (and the jose chairs),
> 
> Could I have some of the time allotted for JOSE-HPKE to continue the discussion from IETF 123? 
> 
> At the last meeting, I made an impassioned plea for some improvements to the jose-hpke-encrypt (improvements that I strongly expect will be necessary eventually, even in the absence of my pleas). I left that meeting with the impression that there was interest in pursuing those improvements, and with the understanding that the authors would reach out to me and a few others to collaborate toward that goal.
> 
> However, no author has reached out, nor has any work on the draft progressed in that direction.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:11 PM Karen ODonoghue <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> Below is the draft agenda for the JOSE meeting next week. It obviously isn’t quite finished, but I wanted to get something uploaded. Please send me any requests, errors, or ommissions. Please also send a quick email to [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> to confirm responsible person and rough time estimate. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Karen (for the jose chairs)
>> 
>> DRAFT AGENDA: 
>> 
>> JOSE Working Group @ IETF 124
>> Wednesday, 3 November 2025
>> 
>> 9:30 - 11:30 UTC (UTC -4)
>> 
>> St Denis
>> 
>> Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-124-jose
>> 
>> Please check https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/agenda for an updated link to the meetecho session.
>> 
>> Draft Agenda
>> 
>> 1.  Admin, Agenda Bash, document status (Chairs,)
>> 
>> 2.  JSON Web Proof Drafts (TBD, ?)
>> 
>> 
>> JSON Web Proofs https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-proof/
>> JSON Proof Algorithms https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-algorithms/
>> 
>> JSON Proof Token https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-token/
>> 
>> 3.  Use of Hybrid Public Key Encryption (HPKE) with JSON Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE) (TBD, ?)
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt/
>> 
>> 4.  Post-Quantum Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (PQ KEMs) for JOSE and COSE (TBD, ?)
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem/
>> 
>> 5.  JOSE: Deprecate ‘none’ and ‘RSA1_5’ (?, 10 min)
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-deprecate-none-rsa15/
>> 	
>> 6.  PQ/T Hybrid Composite Signatures for JOSE and COSE (Prabel, ?)
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prabel-jose-pq-composite-sigs/
>> 
>> 7.  Designated Verifier Signatures for JOSE (?, 10 min)
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-dvs/
>> 	
>> 8.  Public Key Derived HMAC for JOSE
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-pkdh/
>> 
>> 9. AOB
>> 
>> 
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