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Re: [jose] Preliminary Agenda for Interim Meeting

Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> Sat, 27 April 2013 20:05 UTC

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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
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Subject: Re: [jose] Preliminary Agenda for Interim Meeting
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Richard, it would be good if you could update your slides to reflect JWE-10, which should now be what's on your "State of the Art" and "Current -09" slides.  You should say that -10 it is compatible with all major AEAD algorithms and no longer say that the current format causes GCM nonce re-use.

FYI, -10 uses what you called the "Everyone Together" approach.

In your "Only what's needed" slide, you should point out that when applications are free to add header parameter values (which they now are), it's essentially impossible to know needs to be protected, in the general case.

                                                            Cheers,
                                                            -- Mike

From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Barnes
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Subject: Re: [jose] Preliminary Agenda for Interim Meeting

Dear chairs,

As I suggested earlier, I think we should organize this meeting around the few big questions we need to get resolved, from which the answers to individual issues will follow.  So I would like to propose that we re-organize the agenda in the following way:

1. Mon. AM: Which fields are required / how to handle pre-negotiation?
2. Mon. PM: How should header parameter integrity protection be done?
3. Tue. AM: How should we do key wrapping, for JWE, JWS, and beyond?
4. Tue. PM: Review / close issues and wrap up

Also, Based on some side discussions, I've put together some slides that try to summarize the state of the art and proposals for (2).
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HlBYEiwBFYUBA5751Q8U1GXD-W0cgdCZwpVMRdUkK2c/edit?usp=sharing>

Thanks,
--Richard


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com<mailto:ietf@augustcellars.com>> wrote:
The chairs have posted their first cut at an agenda for the Interim meeting.

It can be found at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2013/04/29/jose/agenda/agenda-interim-2013-jose-1


Jim


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