Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue#11: Should we use RFC 5116 and remove the JWE Integrity Value field?

Matias Woloski <matiasw@gmail.com> Mon, 15 April 2013 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue#11: Should we use RFC 5116 and remove the JWE Integrity Value field?
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Rationale: simplicity again. As an implementer I don't want to do an extra
step of binary serialize something. Also, strings are easier to debug with
fiddler.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com>wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Jones
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> Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue#11: Should we
> use RFC 5116 and remove the JWE Integrity Value field?
>
> 1.  Continue having separate Ciphertext, Initialization Vector, and
> Integrity Value values in the JWE representation.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jose-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:jose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Roland Hedberg
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:19 PM
> To: odonoghue@isoc.org
> Cc: jose@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [jose] Feedback request on jose tracker issue#11: Should we
> use RFC 5116 and remove the JWE Integrity Value field?
>
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> 12 apr 2013 kl. 01:58 skrev Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org>:
>
> Issue #11 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/jose/trac/ticket/11 proposes
> restructuring the JWE representation to remove the JWE Integrity Value
> field and instead use the RFC 5116 (AEAD) binary serialization to represent
> the Ciphertext, Initialization Vector, and Integrity Value values.  If this
> proposal is adopted, JWEs would then have three fields - the header, the
> encrypted key, and the RFC 5116 combination of the Ciphertext,
> Initialization Vector, and Integrity Value values.
> This issue is also related to issue #3.  Note that the updated McGrew
> draft described there could be used whether or not we switched to using RFC
> 5116.
>
>
> Which of these best describes your preferences on this issue?
>
> 1.  Continue having separate Ciphertext, Initialization Vector, and
> Integrity Value values in the JWE representation.
>
> 2.  Switch to using the RFC 5116 (AEAD) serialization to represent the
> combination of these three values.
>
> 3.  Another resolution (please specify in detail).
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> 0.  I need more information to decide.
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