Re: [karp] KARP Agenda at IETF 76

[Brian Weis <[e-mail]>]

Hi Gregory,

On Oct 27, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote:

> At 08:12 PM 10/26/2009, Brian Weis wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> The draft agenda for the BoF has been posted: <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/agenda/karp.html  
>> >.
>
> Thanks a ton, Joel and Brian, for getting this out. Looks great. A  
> few comments:
>
> The current versions will be:
>  draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt-08
>  draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-ao-crypto-01
> They should publish today or tomorrow.

Thanks.

>
> I'd like to see the roadmap discussion (my part) broken down into  
> it's more explanative piece parts, as these are the parts that a BoF  
> really needs to discuss separately, and don't rightfully belong in  
> one huge document as I have them today. Rather, they belong in 3  
> different documents, I would think.
>  - Goals / Overview - 5 min
>   - Threat Model - 7 min
>   - Requirements - 8 min
>   - Framework - 10 min

Will do.

> Could we add this to the charter:
> - Definition of the process of what work will be done in KARP vs in  
> routing WG's and how the overlaps will be handled.  - 10 min

My expectation is that this will be naturally covered during the  
Charter Discussion and Open Discussion, as there are likely to be many  
opinions. I don't think 10 minutes would be long enough, but I'll  
confer with Joel on this request.

> To get more time for this process discussion, I'd suggest the  
> example preso of TCP-AO be shortened to 10 min. Justification: we  
> don't need to teach on -AO, just quickly show how we got from MD5 to  
> -AO as an example. Then we can take 5 min from the discussion at the  
> end, to create a total of 10 min for the definition of process part.
>
> Last, I'd like to see some of brief examples of work in progress on  
> KARP-like topics from the community. Several of you have sent me  
> things like these, from Vishwas:
>
> 1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-opsec-routing-protocols-crypto-issues-00.txt
> is the draft I was talking about.
> 2. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5310 is the IS-IS RFC.
> 3. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-03 is the
> equivalent OSPF draft
> 4. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bhatia-manral-igp-crypto-requirements-03
> is the draft for Crypto requirements.
>
> Would anyone like to give a 5 min preso on any of these things? Or  
> any other related work?

There are actually more protocol documents available, and I don't  
think we'd have time to discuss them all in detail. It's my plan to  
cover them all lightly during the Survey agenda item. Does that sound  
reasonable to you?

Thanks,
Brian

>
> Gregory.
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Joel & Brian
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