Re: [kitten] Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-password-storage-00

Sam Whited <sam@samwhited.com> Wed, 04 November 2020 19:07 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2020 14:06:49 -0500
From: Sam Whited <sam@samwhited.com>
To: Ludovic BOCQUET <lbxmpp@live.com>, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, Robbie Harwood <rharwood@redhat.com>, Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>, KITTEN Working Group <kitten@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-password-storage-00
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2020, at 13:03, Ludovic BOCQUET wrote:
> thanks to Sam for finally listening to me.

My apologies if I misunderstood, I thought you were advocating for:

* SCRAM-SHA-256-PLUS
* SCRAM-SHA-256
* SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS
* SCRAM-SHA-1

Which is not what we're going with for now. I did like the idea of
separating the -PLUS mechanisms out into two levels though to indicate
that even if SHA-1 is just as secure right now, it is likely in the
process of being deprecated as Alexey suggested.

> Do not forget to add in the next version of "draft-ietf-kitten-password-
> storage" Internet-Draft:
>  * SCRAM-SHA3-512-PLUS …

As discussed, I do not currently plan on doing this. Let's wait and see
how those I-Ds develop first.

—Sam