Re: [kitten] Windows Intent to revive and implement IAKerb draft-ietf-kitten-iakerb-03

Luke Howard Bentata <lukeh@padl.com> Fri, 17 February 2023 11:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [kitten] Windows Intent to revive and implement IAKerb draft-ietf-kitten-iakerb-03
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Probably so NTLM can be sunsetted:

https://syfuhs.net/killing-ntlm-is-hard <https://syfuhs.net/killing-ntlm-is-hard>

> On 17 Feb 2023, at 9:03 pm, josh.howlett@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello Steve,
>  
> This is really interesting to hear. Are you happy to share your use cases for IAKERB?
>  
> Josh
>